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  • #76
    Originally posted by DigitalInkling View Post
    Hmmm i kinda like those folks he quoted foudroyant. I am not willing to discount their views.
    Origen was denounced as a heretic.

    Source: the Second Council of Constantinople in 553, specifically in its eleventh Canon[/cite


    If anyone does not anathematize Arius, Eunomius, Macedonius, Apollinarius Nestorius, Eutyches and Origen, as well as their heretical books, and also all other heretics who have already been condemned and anathematized by the holy, catholic and apostolic church and by the four holy synods which have already been mentioned, and also all those who have thought or now think in the same way as the aforesaid heretics and who persist in their error even to death: let him be anathema

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    The Athanasius quote was not talking about prayer to the Father or the Son, it was a refutation of Arius' doctrine of God being "the unoriginate", meaning that the Son had a beggining, or "origin". Athanasius never condemns or refutes prayer to Jesus.

    I do not have access to the text of the Councils, so I will not be able to analyze them.


    But, this brings up a rather interesting conundrum for the Mormon... Since they claim Jesus IS YHWH, and YHWH required prayer to Him alone, the insistence that Jesus should not be prayed to becomes problematic.

    Exodus 34:14

    14. For you shall worship no other god; for YHWH, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
    That's what
    - She

    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

    I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
    - Stephen R. Donaldson

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
      But, this brings up a rather interesting conundrum for the Mormon... Since they claim Jesus IS YHWH, and YHWH required prayer to Him alone, the insistence that Jesus should not be prayed to becomes problematic.

      Exodus 34:14

      14. For you shall worship no other god; for YHWH, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.
      More evidence that Mormonism was "thought up as it went along" -- Smith set that pattern, and others played along.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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