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John 17:5. What is the view on how this should be interpreted?

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  • tabibito
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    Originally posted by JacobMartinMertens View Post

    In the first box in that thread I read basically that the viewpoint includes that Jesus is omniscient, which I do not believe.
    The boxed quote is an introduction for the discussion. I can't find an inference of omniscience in the text, unless omniscience is automatically considered a prerequisite for godhood. Jesus certainly was not omniscient, but whether Logos had that faculty is not under consideration in the quote.

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  • JacobMartinMertens
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    Originally posted by tabibito View Post

    It is one of the many verses that support Kenotic Christology (click the blue text to transfer to the linked discussion.)
    In the first box in that thread I read basically that the viewpoint includes that Jesus is omniscient, which I do not believe.

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  • tabibito
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    Originally posted by JacobMartinMertens View Post
    What is the view on how this should be interpreted?

    <a href="https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/preSearch.cfm?Criteria=John+17.5&amp;t=NASB20" target="BLB_NW" rel="NASB20.John.17.5" class="BLBST_a" style="white-space: nowrap;">John 17:5 NASB20</a> - "And now You, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world existed.

    <a href="https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/preSearch.cfm?Criteria=John+17.5&amp;t=NASB95" target="BLB_NW" rel="NASB95.John.17.5" class="BLBST_a" style="white-space: nowrap;">John 17:5 NASB95</a> - "Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

    I am not a Trinitarian, but I am not a Jehovah's Witness.
    It is one of the many verses that support Kenotic Christology (click the blue text to transfer to the linked discussion.)

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  • Cow Poke
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    Originally posted by JacobMartinMertens View Post
    What is the view on how this should be interpreted?

    John 17:5 NASB20 - "And now You, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world existed.

    John 17:5 NASB95 - "Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

    I am not a Trinitarian, but I am not a Jehovah's Witness.
    In context.

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  • John 17:5. What is the view on how this should be interpreted?

    What is the view on how this should be interpreted?

    John 17:5 NASB20 - "And now You, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world existed.

    John 17:5 NASB95 - "Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

    I am not a Trinitarian, but I am not a Jehovah's Witness.
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