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Originally posted by Christian3 View PostIs there any way to know when Psalm 84 was written?
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostAh. That theory is so absurd it doesn't merit a considered response. The Kabah was dedicated to idol worship before Muhammed threw everyone out.
Well, it's not a Davidic psalm; it would be an interpretive stretch to date it prior to the Temple's completion.
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Originally posted by Christian3 View PostI posted this because of the Muslim claim that Valley of Baca is Mecca and the house is the Kabah, even though the text clearly says they were headed for Zion and Zion is not Mecca.
I think it possible that the Psalm could have been written after the Temple was built or before it was built because the specifications of the Temple were given to King David and passed on to Solomon.
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI don't know that "pilgrimage" is the best translation there. It seems fairly obvious to me that the psalm is indeed referring to the Temple (both in reference to "Your house" and "Zion" - which is the mountain on which the Temple was built).
I think it possible that the Psalm could have been written after the Temple was built or before it was built because the specifications of the Temple were given to King David and passed on to Solomon.
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I don't know that "pilgrimage" is the best translation there. It seems fairly obvious to me that the psalm is indeed referring to the Temple (both in reference to "Your house" and "Zion" - which is the mountain on which the Temple was built).
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Psalm 84
Psalm 84
How lovely is Your dwelling place,
Lord of Hosts.
2 I long and yearn
for the courts of the Lord;
my heart and flesh cry out for[a] the living God.
3 Even a sparrow finds a home,
and a swallow, a nest for herself
where she places her young—
near Your altars, Lord of Hosts,
my King and my God.
4 How happy are those who reside in Your house,
who praise You continually.Selah
5 Happy are the people whose strength is in You,
whose hearts are set on pilgrimage.
6 As they pass through the Valley of Baca,[b]
they make it a source of springwater;
even the autumn rain will cover it with blessings.[c]
7 They go from strength to strength;
each appears before God in Zion.
What structure were the pilgrims going to visit?
Some say that the Temple was not built at the time Psalm 84 was written.
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