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Isaiah 11

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  • Christian3
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    Originally posted by RBerman View Post
    Consider the following lyrics from the play "Ragtime":
    Give the people
    A day of peace,
    A day of pride,
    A day of justice
    We have been denied.
    Let the new day dawn,
    Oh, Lord, I pray...
    We'll never get to heaven
    Till we reach that day

    It's one day referred to in different ways. So too in this text, one Spirit, bringing several things.
    This is helpful. Thanks.

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  • RBerman
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    Consider the following lyrics from the play "Ragtime":
    Give the people
    A day of peace,
    A day of pride,
    A day of justice
    We have been denied.
    Let the new day dawn,
    Oh, Lord, I pray...
    We'll never get to heaven
    Till we reach that day

    It's one day referred to in different ways. So too in this text, one Spirit, bringing several things.

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  • One Bad Pig
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    Originally posted by Christian3 View Post
    Hi one bad pig,

    OK, Spirit of the Lord, then. :)

    I thought it might be an example of Hebrew parallelism.

    Isaiah 6:3 Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of Hosts

    Holy three times.

    "spirit" three times in the text I posted.

    What does the number 3 suggest?
    It seems to be either an extreme emphasis or superlative (which concepts are not unrelated).

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  • Christian3
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    Originally posted by one bad pig View Post
    this would probably get some push-back from jews, since afaik "holy spirit" is strictly a christian term.

    I don't get that impression. It may be an indication that the spirit is divine (see is. 6:3). There are other examples of triple repetition in the tanakh, but i can't recall them at the moment.

    Thank you.
    Hi one bad pig,

    OK, Spirit of the Lord, then. :)

    I thought it might be an example of Hebrew parallelism.

    Isaiah 6:3 Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of Hosts

    Holy three times.

    "spirit" three times in the text I posted.

    What does the number 3 suggest?
    Last edited by Christian3; 04-04-2014, 12:15 PM.

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  • One Bad Pig
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    Originally posted by Christian3 View Post
    Isiah 11:

    11 Then a shoot will grow from the stump of Jesse,
    and a branch from his roots will bear fruit.
    2 The Spirit of the Lord will rest on Him—
    a Spirit of wisdom and understanding,
    a Spirit of counsel and strength,
    a Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord.

    I know the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, of counsel and strength, and knowledge and fear of the Lord are gifts from the Holy Spirit.
    This would probably get some push-back from Jews, since AFAIK "Holy Spirit" is strictly a Christian term.
    My question is why does the text repeat "a Spirit" since it gives the impression that they are separate spirits?
    I don't get that impression. It may be an indication that the Spirit is divine (see Is. 6:3). There are other examples of triple repetition in the Tanakh, but I can't recall them at the moment.

    Thank you.[/QUOTE]

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  • Christian3
    started a topic Isaiah 11

    Isaiah 11

    Isiah 11:

    11 Then a shoot will grow from the stump of Jesse,
    and a branch from his roots will bear fruit.
    2 The Spirit of the Lord will rest on Him—
    a Spirit of wisdom and understanding,
    a Spirit of counsel and strength,
    a Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord.

    I know the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, of counsel and strength, and knowledge and fear of the Lord are gifts from the Holy Spirit.

    My question is why does the text repeat "a Spirit" since it gives the impression that they are separate spirits?

    Thank you.
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