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Originally posted by Quest82 View Post
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostGiven that Paul was involved in the stoning of Stephen he would have known that if Jesus was literally executed by the Jews He would have been stoned rather than crucified. Moreover, among those that Paul would have been addressing in Thessalonians would have been Jewish converts. It would hardly make sense for Paul to be blaming them for persecuting Christians ("drove us out"). Some scholars even hold that Jews may have been the majority of converts in the city based upon I Thessalonians 2:14, but this is debated.
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Originally posted by Quest82 View Post
Thanks for your input though if we stick to the text of 1 thess 2:14-15, it says Jews killed the essiah
It is rarely a good idea to examine passages in isolation.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Quest82 View Post
Thanks Christian3 for your relating your experience.
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Originally posted by Quest82 View Post
Thanks Christian3. However, 1 thess 2:14-15 does not say so.
The Jews wanted Jesus dead; they could not kill him because only the Romans could so they took him to the Romans and they killed him but this doesn't let the Jews off the hook.
Matthew 20:18,19 - 'We are going up to Jerusalem, and the SON OF MAN WILL BE BETRAYED to the chief priests and the teachers of the law. THEY WILL CONDEMN HIM TO DEATH and will turn him over to the Gentiles to be mocked and flogged and crucified. ON THE THIRD DAY HE WILL BE RAISED TO LIFE!'
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Sure you are. Same posting style and same other clues. Your other account is still active, if you switch back to using it we won't ban it and you permanently. But this sockpuppet nonsense needs to stop now.
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Originally posted by Christian3 View Post
Obviously, you have not read the New Testament.
The Jews wanted Jesus dead; they could not kill him because only the Romans could so they took him to the Romans and they killed him but this doesn't let the Jews off the hook.
Matthew 20:18,19 - 'We are going up to Jerusalem, and the SON OF MAN WILL BE BETRAYED to the chief priests and the teachers of the law. THEY WILL CONDEMN HIM TO DEATH and will turn him over to the Gentiles to be mocked and flogged and crucified. ON THE THIRD DAY HE WILL BE RAISED TO LIFE!'
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Originally posted by Christian3 View Post
Obviously, you have not read the New Testament.
The Jews wanted Jesus dead; they could not kill him because only the Romans could so they took him to the Romans and they killed him but this doesn't let the Jews off the hook.
Matthew 20:18,19 - 'We are going up to Jerusalem, and the SON OF MAN WILL BE BETRAYED to the chief priests and the teachers of the law. THEY WILL CONDEMN HIM TO DEATH and will turn him over to the Gentiles to be mocked and flogged and crucified. ON THE THIRD DAY HE WILL BE RAISED TO LIFE!'
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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