Originally posted by Christian3
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Are you saying that even though the Jews did not crucify Jesus, the Romans did?
I have discussed these verses with dozens and dozens of Muslims and the result was: "It is crystal clear that Jesus was not crucified by anyone and that he did not die. It is clear that Allah took Jesus to heaven thus saving him from death."
I have interpreted verse 4:157 like you do. It is merely saying that the Jews didn't do it. The Jewish leaders certainly wanted Jesus dead, but it was the Romans who actually killed Jesus.
004.157 YUSUFALI: That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
"They" is speaking of the Jews. However, the Jews would never have called Jesus the "Christ" because the Jews did not believe Jesus was the Messiah. This is telling me that someone else made up this dialog.
Quest82: There is no making up because Paul was a Jew and said that Jews (not Romans) killed Jesus in 1 Thess 2:14-15.
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