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  • Originally posted by Dan Zebiri View Post
    Repetition of previous senseless "answers" makes you even MORE illogical and nonsensical, hakeem.

    It does make you sound like a parrot with no intelligence and increases your comical performance which has some amusing value. LOL!!

    I am quoting the Bible specifically the words of Jesus Christ in Matthew 24:36.

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    • Originally posted by Same Hakeem View Post

      I am quoting the Bible specifically the words of Jesus Christ in Matthew 24:36.
      Even though you will make a determined effort to ignore it...

      Source: If Jesus is God, why did He not know when He would return?


      Speaking of His second coming, Jesus said, “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father” (Matthew 24:36; cf. Mark 13:32). The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is God (John 1:1, 14), and we know that God is omniscient. So it seems strange that Jesus would say that He did not know when He would return.

      The key to understanding Jesus’ seeming lack of knowledge in this matter lies in the nature of the Incarnation. When the Son of God became a man, He remained fully God, but He also took on a true human nature. Jesus retained all the attributes of divinity, yet, as a man, He voluntarily restricted their use. This was part of the “self-emptying” or self-renunciation spoken of in Philippians 2:6–8. When Christ entered our world, He laid aside the privileges that had been His in heaven. Rather than stay on His throne in heaven, Jesus “made himself nothing” (as the NIV translates Philippians 2:7). When He came to earth, “he gave up his divine privileges” (NLT). He veiled His glory, and He chose to occupy the position of a servant.

      There were times when Jesus publicly manifested His divine knowledge and power on earth (John 2:25; 11:43 –44). On those occasions, Jesus’ demonstrations of His divinity were directed by the Father. On other occasions, He had no such directive from the Father, and He kept His glory veiled. On all occasions, Jesus obeyed the Father’s will: “I always do what pleases him,” He said (John 8:29).

      So, when Jesus said He did not know when He would return, He was actively humbling Himself and taking the form of a servant (see Philippians 2:7–8). Since no other mortal knows the time of Jesus’ return—that information is the Father’s alone (Matthew 24:36)—Jesus voluntarily restricted His knowledge on that point. It was part of Jesus’ submission to the Father (see John 5:30; 6:38; 8:28–29) and His mission to live a human life.

      Some things Jesus apparently chose to “give up the rights” to be privy to during His earthly ministry. The knowledge of when He would return was one of those things. Jesus, now exalted in heaven, surely knows all, including the timing of His second coming.


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      Whenever you have a question like this one of the best places you can start a search for an answer (assuming that you're legitimately interested in one) is https://www.gotquestions.org/



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      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        Even though you will make a determined effort to ignore it...

        Source: If Jesus is God, why did He not know when He would return?


        Speaking of His second coming, Jesus said, “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father” (Matthew 24:36; cf. Mark 13:32). The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus is God (John 1:1, 14), and we know that God is omniscient. So it seems strange that Jesus would say that He did not know when He would return.

        The key to understanding Jesus’ seeming lack of knowledge in this matter lies in the nature of the Incarnation. When the Son of God became a man, He remained fully God, but He also took on a true human nature. Jesus retained all the attributes of divinity, yet, as a man, He voluntarily restricted their use. This was part of the “self-emptying” or self-renunciation spoken of in Philippians 2:6–8. When Christ entered our world, He laid aside the privileges that had been His in heaven. Rather than stay on His throne in heaven, Jesus “made himself nothing” (as the NIV translates Philippians 2:7). When He came to earth, “he gave up his divine privileges” (NLT). He veiled His glory, and He chose to occupy the position of a servant.

        There were times when Jesus publicly manifested His divine knowledge and power on earth (John 2:25; 11:43 –44). On those occasions, Jesus’ demonstrations of His divinity were directed by the Father. On other occasions, He had no such directive from the Father, and He kept His glory veiled. On all occasions, Jesus obeyed the Father’s will: “I always do what pleases him,” He said (John 8:29).

        So, when Jesus said He did not know when He would return, He was actively humbling Himself and taking the form of a servant (see Philippians 2:7–8). Since no other mortal knows the time of Jesus’ return—that information is the Father’s alone (Matthew 24:36)—Jesus voluntarily restricted His knowledge on that point. It was part of Jesus’ submission to the Father (see John 5:30; 6:38; 8:28–29) and His mission to live a human life.

        Some things Jesus apparently chose to “give up the rights” to be privy to during His earthly ministry. The knowledge of when He would return was one of those things. Jesus, now exalted in heaven, surely knows all, including the timing of His second coming.


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        © Copyright Original Source



        Whenever you have a question like this one of the best places you can start a search for an answer (assuming that you're legitimately interested in one) is https://www.gotquestions.org/

        Thanks. I found this link https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-know-return.html

        However, my take on Matthew 24:36 is if the Holy Spirit is God, Jesus would not have limited the knowledge of his return to the FATHER ONLY in Matthew 24:36.

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        • Originally posted by Dan Zebiri View Post
          Repetition of previous senseless "answers" makes you even MORE illogical and nonsensical, hakeem.

          It does make you sound like a parrot with no intelligence and increases your comical performance which has some amusing value. LOL!!

          Hence, his first name.

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          • Indeed, one does wonder if this guy is truly sincerely interested in learning the truth?

            He seems much more concerned with attacking and destroying the Christian faith and the Gospel.

            good luck to him...Lol!


            Originally posted by Faber View Post

            Hence, his first name.

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            • Originally posted by Same Hakeem View Post

              Thanks. I found this link https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-know-return.html

              However, my take on Matthew 24:36 is if the Holy Spirit is God, Jesus would not have limited the knowledge of his return to the FATHER ONLY in Matthew 24:36.
              You need to read slower and think harder.

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              • Originally posted by Christian3 View Post

                You need to read slower and think harder.
                FIFY n/c


                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization thatís not the argument." --Tassman

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