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World Religions is a theist only type place, but that does not exclude certain religionists who practice non-theistic faiths ala Buddhism. If you are not sure, ask a moderator.
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Originally posted by Dan Zebiri View PostYes and I think I've seen that long reply of yours. A while back before the crash.
I just want to be thorough.
I'm always still in trouble again
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostBecause John clearly identifies this Word with Jesus, so a Trinity consisting of the Father, Son and Word would have been out of the question.
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Originally posted by Dan Zebiri View PostCan u also answer Christian3 and my questions on the identity of who 'Samiri' is? On here -
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...nd-Islam/page2 -
If the intention is to bolster your Christian faith by attacking another faith---that is fine too---just see your apologetics videos and feel-good,... but leave me out... I lack the patience for it.
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Originally posted by siam View PostYes --I can easily answer it....but only if there is genuine interest in learning.
If the intention is to bolster your Christian faith by attacking another faith---that is fine too---just see your apologetics videos and feel-good,... but leave me out... I lack the patience for it.
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Originally posted by siam View Postreciprocating what was dealt
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostJesus is identified as fully divine in nature, but not as God, if by God you mean the Father.
Depending on interpretation, the word = God in G of J?
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
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Originally posted by siam View Post...then Jesus is not Word?---correct?
Depending on interpretation, the word = God in G of J?
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
And here we go again...
Nothing of what I've said implies that Jesus is not the Word. There are multiple ways the phrase "the Word was God" can be understood. It can be understood in the sense that the Word was fully divine. It can be understood in the sense that the title of God belongs to the Word. Or that the name of God belongs to the Word.
It could, presumably, also mean that the Word is identical to the God (i.e the Father) that the Word "was with", but that is highly unlikely and is dependent on the ridiculous notion that John contradicted himself all throughout his gospel by clearly making a distinction between the Word/Jesus and the Father. The idea is so ridiculous on the face of it that it's not even worth considering seriously.
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View PostYour lack of even attempting to understand Christian doctrines has nothing to do with "reciprocating" anything, don't try to hide behind that sorry excuse. You were doing it already when you were having a discussion with me about various doctrines of Christianity in the other thread.
I have always been honest that I do not understand Christian Theology---all my previous attempts to do so have failed....I do not have much hope of ever understanding Christian theology. That is why I was asking a non-Christian some questions about why certain theological choices were made and not others. If I cannot understand the Theology, maybe I can understand the socio-historical circumstance and/or rationale of these particular choices.
Another area of interest/inquiry (4 me) would be how Christians personally use their theology to enhance/better their lives--what ethico-moral principles (if any) do these ideas contribute towards...etc
so far---not seeing much response in either of these areas
Also---to clarify
In my case---I do not equate difficult and/or critical questions about Islam as rudeness. Questions about Samiri or other subjects (tafsir of Fatiha), Sister of Aaron...etc are all questions I can easily answer. However, if the intention behind the question is simply an apologetic feel-good aim rather than evaluating and discussing my response---then I get no intellectual benefit out of it.
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Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
And here we go again...
Nothing of what I've said implies that Jesus is not the Word. There are multiple ways the phrase "the Word was God" can be understood. It can be understood in the sense that the Word was fully divine. It can be understood in the sense that the title of God belongs to the Word. Or that the name of God belongs to the Word.
It could, presumably, also mean that the Word is identical to the God (i.e the Father) that the Word "was with", but that is highly unlikely and is dependent on the ridiculous notion that John contradicted himself all throughout his gospel by clearly making a distinction between the Word/Jesus and the Father. The idea is so ridiculous on the face of it that it's not even worth considering seriously.
If my word-choice is improper let me know....
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