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What's your position on the mind-body problem?
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Originally posted by JimL View PostI think you should only speak for yourself on that one JP. But perhaps you have an explanation? First off to transmit a mind to a brain, you need to have a mind to transmit. What did you have in mind?
Researchers at the University of Washington, Rajesh Rao and Andrea Stocco, have created a remote, non-invasive brain-to-brain interface that allowed Rao to move Stocco’s finger remotely on a keyboard using his thoughts. -Researchers Build The First Brain-To-Brain Control Interface
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Originally posted by JohnnyP View PostYes apologies, I was referring to experiments like these, where mind data may be transmitted. Which is not to say it's evidence of a "thinking" mind outside of the brain, but it opens the door to considering that mind data may be synthesized by computers, preserved outside of the brain, etc.:“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
“not all there” - you know who you are
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The mind/ conscience is your soul. It takes up temporary residence in your brain and uses the brains limited functions to give orders to the body. When you die it leaves the mass called the brain and goes along in its spirit form where it continues to 'think' in a not so limited form.
I don't know what the scientific name for this is or if there even is one
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Originally posted by princesa View PostThe mind/ conscience is your soul. It takes up temporary residence in your brain and uses the brains limited functions to give orders to the body. When you die it leaves the mass called the brain and goes along in its spirit form where it continues to 'think' in a not so limited form.
I don't know what the scientific name for this is or if there even is one
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Originally posted by JimL View PostThat may be what it is purported to be by those who believe there to be a soul/mind separate from the brain/body, but that is so far just an unsubstantiated claim. There is no scientific evidence supporting this claim of immaterial ghosts.
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Originally posted by Volt View PostAre you a materialist then? I'm not sure what the term "emergent property" entails, other than that the mind is more than its parts.
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I am not sure exactly. As a Christian, I'm feel some form of dualism is default, so that's what I hold to for now. I was also first seriously exposed to idealism from Raatz and IP, and while I find their view an attractive one. I do want to explore the issues a little further at my own pace though before I fully commit to either view in particular. That being said, it's a little hard to say good-bye to a mind independent reality. lol
By the way, Quantum Weirdness, do you have a youtube channel by the same name?
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Originally posted by Theistic-Student View PostI am not sure exactly. As a Christian, I'm feel some form of dualism is default, so that's what I hold to for now. I was also first seriously exposed to idealism from Raatz and IP, and while I find their view an attractive one. I do want to explore the issues a little further at my own pace though before I fully commit to either view in particular. That being said, it's a little hard to say good-bye to a mind independent reality. lol
Wonder if you might like neutral monism though for the meantime?
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"Neutral monism is a monistic metaphysics. It holds that ultimate reality is all of one kind. To this extent neutral monism is in agreement with idealism and materialism. What distinguishes neutral monism from its better known monistic rivals is the claim that the intrinsic nature of ultimate reality is neither mental nor physical. This negative claim also captures the idea of neutrality: being intrinsically neither mental nor physical in nature ultimate reality is said to be neutral between the two.
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/neutral-monism/
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Originally posted by Theistic-Student View PostBy the way, Quantum Weirdness, do you have a youtube channel by the same name?
Think you can guess my real name just by looking at my profile?-The universe begins to look more like a great thought than a great machine.
Sir James Jeans
-This most beautiful system (The Universe) could only proceed from the dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being.All variety of created objects which represent order and Life in the Universe could happen only by the willful reasoning of its original Creator, whom I call the Lord God.
Sir Isaac Newton
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I consider the mind-body problem to be non-existent. That is, I believe the discussion arises from confusion due to different manners of describing the same thing. If there's a technical term for that, I don't recall. It's been too long since I delved into it to remember offhand. Regardless, I typically dislike categories as I seldom find one existing that truly matches what it is I think.I'm not here anymore.
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Originally posted by Quantum Weirdness View PostVery. Imagine trying to explain that to your friends that you essentially live in a dream world and not being laughed at!!!
Wonder if you might like neutral monism though for the meantime?
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"Neutral monism is a monistic metaphysics. It holds that ultimate reality is all of one kind. To this extent neutral monism is in agreement with idealism and materialism. What distinguishes neutral monism from its better known monistic rivals is the claim that the intrinsic nature of ultimate reality is neither mental nor physical. This negative claim also captures the idea of neutrality: being intrinsically neither mental nor physical in nature ultimate reality is said to be neutral between the two.
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/neutral-monism/
End QuoteI'm not here anymore.
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