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Is Incest Morally Wrong?

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Machinist View Post
    The Law of God is written on the heart of man. Is it not self evident that having sex with your wife on her monthly is not the same offense as having sex with say, her mother? It seems like it's intuitive as to what is right and wrong here. A man having sex with an animal. What's wrong with that picture? You see what i'm saying?
    I could go along with the idea that what the vast majority of people feel intuitively is wrong, is morally wrong, and that everything else is at least neutral.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by seer View Post

      So it is not actually immoral. God wouldn't see that as a sin - correct?
      My inclination is that God would see it as sin for anyone claiming to be part of that Covenant -- not because it is inherently sinful, but because it violates His demands.
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      • #18
        A case could be made that after it was no longer a necessity for humanity to be able to be fruitful and multiply, that it became moral law. Essentially, there should be a distinction made between incest before God commanded that they're prohibited (Leviticus 18:6-18) and incestuous relationships that took place after God’s decree was issued.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

          My inclination is that God would see it as sin for anyone claiming to be part of that Covenant -- not because it is inherently sinful, but because it violates His demands.
          That Covenant? But not for Christians today?
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          • #20
            Romans 2:15 says that the requirements of the law are written on the heart, and taken in conjunction with the idea in the previous chapter that God's attributes are known to all so that people are without excuse, it seems like there is a biblical case for intuitively knowing right from wrong. It's not for nothing that incest is a universal taboo throughout societies.
            "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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            • #21
              Originally posted by seer View Post

              That Covenant? But not for Christians today?
              It's not quite incest strictly speaking, but the guy in 1 Corinthians 5 who was having sex with his mother's wife comes to mind. Paul basically went apoplectic on the Corinthians over that. So if that action that wasn't literally incest was enough to elicit that reaction, think about how bad actual incest would be.
              "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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              • #22
                Originally posted by seer View Post

                That Covenant? But not for Christians today?
                If we are going to take seriously --

                * Eph. 2:15

                * Col. 2:14

                * much of Hebrews, including 7:12

                * Rom. 13:8-10

                * Gal. 5:14

                *Jas. 2:8

                -- then we have to be open to the possibility that the only part of the Law still in effect for believers is Lev. 19:18.
                Last edited by NorrinRadd; 09-26-2022, 03:22 AM.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

                  If we are going to take seriously --

                  * Rom. 13:8-10
                  Paul still seems to use the law as a moral guide:


                  8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

                  9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

                  Gal: 5

                  19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

                  20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

                  21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                    Romans 2:15 says that the requirements of the law are written on the heart, and taken in conjunction with the idea in the previous chapter that God's attributes are known to all so that people are without excuse, it seems like there is a biblical case for intuitively knowing right from wrong. It's not for nothing that incest is a universal taboo throughout societies.
                    Except Ptolemaic Egypt. In such cases incest is political. It is designed to contain all of the power in one family.

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                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • #25
                      Talk about a timely thread; from Pink news...

                      Why can’t gay or lesbian twins have sex with or marry each other? Why is incest wrong between same-sex siblings?

                      Some argue that between consenting adults, of the same or a similar age, incest is a victimless crime. That is, of course, providing they don’t reproduce.

                      So, between twins of the same-sex, where there are no grey areas regarding consent or abuse, and there’s absolutely no chance that either will conceive, why not?

                      We wouldn’t like to say – but it’s an interesting theory.

                      That said, in the interest of fairness and equality, if gay or lesbian siblings/twins fall in love and are legally allowed to marry or have sex, it’s not really fair if straight siblings/twins aren’t given the same rights just because some of them can reproduce.

                      Where would the line be drawn? What if both siblings were infertile? It’s a minefield – though probably one that will be discussed more in the future.

                      https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/03/2...-sex-siblings/
                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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