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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
As I've said, that would be one end of the Block Universe (unless it extends further back than that, of course).Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
But that makes no sense. If as science says, all of matter and energy was contained in that small thing - there was nothing else at that point. There was no other end to the Block universe. There was no block universe, just that one human sized thing.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
It contained all matter and energy of the universe AT THAT TIME. Just like right now the universe contains all matter and energy in the universe at THIS TIME. Every moment in time would contain all of matter and energy of the universe at that moment.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
What time is that in static time? The point is there was no "block" universe - nor could there be. When all matter and energy was contained at that small point, it was not part of a larger block universe - it was all there was...
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
The block universe contains all time, and at any point in that time contains all of the matter and energy that exists in the universe at that time.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
When the universe was only the size of a human, was there anything else? Was it part of a larger block universe?
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Yes, it was part of the block universe: the first part. Think of that GIF file I showed earlier with the dot and circle. It was a stack of 4 images. First one was a dot, second a small circle, third a larger circle, and 4th was the largest circle. If the entire stack (gif file) was the block universe, the first frame was the big bang. at that "time" that frame contained all of the matter in the "universe" - a dot. At frame two, it contained all of the matter in the universe at that "time" a small circle. and so on.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
But there were no other frames when the universe was a dot. There was only that dot, that is all that existed. That is exactly what Big Bang cosmology claims.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
No, that's what Presentists claim.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
No, that is what your and my link said concerning Big bang cosmology. The universe GREW from this dot. Not that this dot was a small part of a wider universe that already existed, that wider universe did not exist when the dot did, it was in fact the expanding dot that created the universe as we see it today. Also, growing block theory would accommodate Big bang cosmology.
You are confusing philosophy and science.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
So, the article was written by a Presentist, or a Growing Block theorist.
You are confusing philosophy and science.
The Big Bang event is a physical theory that describes how the universe expanded from an initial state of high density and temperature.[1] Various cosmological models of the Big Bang explain the evolution of the observable universe from the earliest known periods through its subsequent large-scale form.[2][3][4] These models offer a comprehensive explanation for a broad range of observed phenomena, including the abundance of light elements, the cosmic microwave background (CMB) radiation, and large-scale structure. The overall uniformity of the Universe, known as the flatness problem, is explained through cosmic inflation: a sudden and very rapid expansion of space during the earliest moments.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_BangAtheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
But there were no other frames when the universe was a dot. There was only that dot, that is all that existed. That is exactly what Big Bang cosmology claims.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
remember that the block universe "always" existed in it's entirety. That's what the block universe is. All of time existing simultaneously. So yeah the future universe existed at the big bang. The big bang was just the "first frame" of the movie.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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