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If the matrix was real, would you live in it?

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  • If the matrix was real, would you live in it?

    If the matrix was real, would you live in it?
    I am become death...

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    Would we have a choice?

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    • #3
      Depends on a lot of things. Do I get to know that it's The Matrix while living in it? Do I get to do cool computer hacking stuff? Is there an alternative to live in the human city and plug yourself in to a fake matrix for VR recreation?

      So many questions...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ana Dragule View Post
        If the matrix was real, would you live in it?
        The Matrix in the movies? No. It's all controlled by the machines, and they're just using people as batteries. Also, they tried to make it a wonderful place to live and the people rejected it, so it ended up pretty much like this world.

        On the other hand, having my body protected from harm while my mind could experience all kinds of fun stuff (a different Matrix) sounds pretty good to me!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ana Dragule View Post
          If the matrix was real, would you live in it?
          I thought we already were?

          Confirmed! We Live in a Simulation

          https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-a-simulation/
          Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Alien View Post

            On the other hand, having my body protected from harm while my mind could experience all kinds of fun stuff (a different Matrix) sounds pretty good to me!
            As long as steak taste like steak, not tofu!
            Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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            • #7
              It's NOT?!?!?!?!
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by seer View Post

                As long as steak taste like steak, not tofu!
                It did in the movie. And no need to be vegetarian as it's all virtual.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Alien View Post

                  The Matrix in the movies? No. It's all controlled by the machines, and they're just using people as batteries. Also, they tried to make it a wonderful place to live and the people rejected it, so it ended up pretty much like this world.

                  On the other hand, having my body protected from harm while my mind could experience all kinds of fun stuff (a different Matrix) sounds pretty good to me!
                  If people hadn’t rejected the matrix, would it have been worth staying in?
                  I am become death...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ana Dragule View Post

                    If people hadn’t rejected the matrix, would it have been worth staying in?

                    Hmmm. I would still be at the mercy of the machines, who could change things at any time. Have you watched the Upload series? You can be copied into a computer just before death (anytime really) and you get a kind of computerized afterlife, that resembles a luxurious hotel and surrounding grounds. The problem is that someone has to run the computer in the real world and it's done on a capitalistic model, so someone also has to pay for your continuing existence. The point is that you are always subject to something outside the simulation that you have no control over.

                    If you are trying to get at whether it's better to be in a virtual world and happy (safe really, happiness is an illusive beast) than to be in the real world, I would tentatively say yes, though with caveats.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ana Dragule View Post

                      If people hadn’t rejected the matrix, would it have been worth staying in?
                      No.

                      Either you live a life fully deceived - so no flying like Superman or being super rich - or you live a life fully devoid of meaning, connection and purpose.
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                      • #12
                        If I could be rich. Someone important. Like an actor.

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                        • #13
                          We already have people who spend their entire waking lives playing games. If they ever invented something like a holodeck or the matrix where you could go in and live a fantasy life, you would have people who would never leave.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            We already have people who spend their entire waking lives playing games. If they ever invented something like a holodeck or the matrix where you could go in and live a fantasy life, you would have people who would never leave.
                            You said that like it was a bad thing.

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                            • #15
                              It would be a cool thing to just plug in and go to the beach.

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