"absolute free speech"

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Ah, so that's how you see it.

When you make a fairly simple statement you aren't going someone else's homework

When someone else makes a fairly simple statement they're over-simplified and lacking in specifics

Then again nobody has ever said you were consistent.

I responded to your comments. You appear unable to respond to mine apart from making various puerile schoolboy posts.

If you want a detailed exchange make your case with appropriate citations.

[rogue06]

Oops - Not sure where I got "Mongolia" from - I did mean Manchuria.

If I remember rightly, Manchuria fell in double quick time: the Russians invaded at midnight, by mid-afternoon the writing was on the wall.

And FWIU, one of Japan's biggest concerns about Russia entering the war was that if they started seizing their northern islands that they wouldn't get them back if they surrendered.

[Cow Poke]

laborious

Yes, VERY Much so!!!!

[rogue06]

I responded to your comments. You appear unable to respond to mine apart from making various puerile schoolboy posts.

If you want a detailed exchange make your case with appropriate citations.

Pfft. You aren't fooling anyone. Several times when I've bothered to go into great detail when dealing with you all I got in exchange are one sentences dismissals saying things like who am I trying to impress.

You're a fake and a fraud and always have been

[Cow Poke]

I responded to your comments. You appear unable to respond to mine apart from making various puerile schoolboy posts.

If you want a detailed exchange make your case with appropriate citations.

You mean like....

A) That is your opiniion
2) Define "Citations"?

[tabibito]

And FWIU, one of Japan's biggest concerns about Russia entering the war was that if they started seizing their northern islands that they wouldn't get them back if they surrendered.

Not part of the story that I have followed. The information that I have about WWII was largely drawn from NASA archives (public access) somewhen around the mid 1980s.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Several times when I've bothered to go into great detail when dealing with you all I got in exchange are one sentences dismissals saying things like who am I trying to impress.

Oh you mean your frantic Googling resulting in the production of confections of disjointed comments pertaining to widely different periods of history? Is that what you call "great detail"?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

You mean like....

A) That is your opiniion
2) Define "Citations"?

Citation: A quotation of or explicit reference to a source for substantiation as in, for example, a scholarly text.

[NorrinRadd]

Its a good point. Even the Geneva convention concedes that a complete/absolute prevention of civilian deaths is impossible during war. And while I also agree about winning (particularly the winning quickly part)--our definition of "winning" ---might be different?....

That's always the question, isn't it? It's easy to start throwing punches and slide into a war de facto even if not de jure. Then, since you really didn't plan on getting in, you don't know how to define "winning," but know you don't want to "lose," and so don't know how to get out.

[rogue06]

Not part of the story that I have followed. The information that I have about WWII was largely drawn from NASA archives (public access) somewhen around the mid 1980s.

Also, FWIU, the Japanese were hoping that the Russians would help them negotiate a conditional surrender, and that vanished in a puff of smoke with the invasion of Manchuria. The Japanese knew back in 1943 they were going to lose and started thinking about surrender but the Supreme War Council successfully derailed any efforts along those lines.

[rogue06]

Citation: A quotation of or explicit reference to a source for substantiation as in, for example, a scholarly text.

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[rogue06]

Oh you mean your frantic Googling resulting in the production of confections of disjointed comments pertaining to widely different periods of history? Is that what you call "great detail"?

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[Cow Poke]

Citation: A quotation of or explicit reference to a source for substantiation as in, for example, a scholarly text.

You mean like when you post a "study" that is nothing more than a survey?
Or a book on Germany by an liberal ASSOCIATE professor of a leftst university?
Or another book buy some unknown sociology professor from JAMAICA about how racist the US is?

You are the very textbook definiton of "confirmation bias".

Google that.

[tabibito]

Also, FWIU, the Japanese were hoping that the Russians would help them negotiate a conditional surrender, and that vanished in a puff of smoke with the invasion of Manchuria. The Japanese knew back in 1943 they were going to lose and started thinking about surrender but the Supreme War Council successfully derailed any efforts along those lines.

Japanese tried to go via Russia on the first attempt. Second attempt was for a conditional surrender, but the conditions were not even close to reasonable. Third attempt just had that one condition.
Most felt that they could hold their own against America if not prevail. Questions were asked by others how Japan could possibly prosecute a war when they couldn't even make a decent pair of boots.

Britain (including other national governments of the empire) told Japan flatly that if it came to war between Japan and America, the British Empire would buy in. The alliance between America and the British empire was never going to have a successful outcome for Japan - and they knew it. The Japanese knew they couldn't win in 1941.

[rogue06]

Japanese tried to go via Russia on the first attempt. Second attempt was for a conditional surrender, but the conditions were not even close to reasonable. Third attempt just had that one condition.
Most felt that they could hold their own against America if not prevail. Questions were asked by others how Japan could possibly prosecute a war when they couldn't even make a decent pair of boots.

Britain (including other national governments of the empire) told Japan flatly that if it came to war between Japan and America, the British Empire would buy in. The alliance between America and the British empire was never going to have a successful outcome for Japan - and they knew it. The Japanese knew they couldn't win in 1941.

They put all their hopes on Pearl Harbor not only crushing the American naval presence in the Pacific but sapping any will to fight.

Boy did they miscalculate.