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Hypostatic Quaternity

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  • So Christ was God through some kind of hypostatic entanglement. Some sort of superposition. The analogy lies within the quantum world. There will be a distinct 3-ness to it.

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    • You often hear the phrase "mind/body/soul". Is this a trinity? Is man a fractal of the Trinity?

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      • If Jesus is God hypostatically...if hypostatically, Jesus was the Father and the Son at the same time....

        What is this function of hypostasis? What are the conditions necessary for hypostasis to take place?

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        • Here is something you might understand. Maybe not, but you might.
          Christians are indwelt by the Holy Spirit, as a distinct Person, Romans 8:16.
          Jesus explained that God the Father is Spirit, John 4:24.
          The Apostle Paul also stated that a Christian is indwelt by the Spirit of God and is also identified as the Spirit of Christ, Romans 8:9.
          So three distinct Persons of a common subtance by which they are the one and the same God.
          . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

          . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

          Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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          • Originally posted by 37818 View Post
            Here is something you might understand. Maybe not, but you might.
            Christians are indwelt by the Holy Spirit, as a distinct Person, Romans 8:16.
            Jesus explained that God the Father is Spirit, John 4:24.
            The Apostle Paul also stated that a Christian is indwelt by the Spirit of God and is also identified as the Spirit of Christ, Romans 8:9.
            So three distinct Persons of a common subtance by which they are the one and the same God.
            Do you understand this? I do not.

            Is believing the same as understanding?

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            • Originally posted by Machinist View Post

              Do you understand this? I do not.

              Is believing the same as understanding?
              Believing can be the same as what is understood. But not always.
              It is my understanding and as such my belief what causes and is the reason the three distinct Persons who are God to be one are they are one Spirit to.
              . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

              . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

              Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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              • Originally posted by 37818 View Post

                Believing can be the same as what is understood. But not always.
                It is my understanding and as such my belief what causes and is the reason the three distinct Persons who are God to be one are they are one Spirit to.
                So spirit's have the ability to divide into parts. Is the number of parts a spirit can divide into necessarily 3? Is it an objective fact/axiom that spirits are inherently 3 entities?

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                • Is it possible to quarter a spirit?

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                  • Originally posted by Machinist View Post

                    So spirit's have the ability to divide into parts. Is the number of parts a spirit can divide into necessarily 3? Is it an objective fact/axiom that spirits are inherently 3 entities?
                    God is not made up of parts. God is one entity. Deuteronomy 6:4 KJV, "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: . . ."
                    Now the three distinct Persons are that one. Each of those distinct Persons are the whole and not parts of the whole. They each have distinctions which makes them Persons not parts in that each are the whole. One cannot be without each other. God is the whole without parts.
                    Last edited by 37818; 04-13-2021, 04:26 PM.
                    . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

                    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

                    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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                    • Originally posted by 37818 View Post
                      God is not made up of parts. God is one entity. Deuteronomy 6:4 KJV, "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: . . ."
                      Now the three distinct Persons are that one. Each of those distinct Persons are the whole and not parts of the whole. They each have distinctions which makes them Persons not parts in that each are the whole. One cannot be without each other. God is the whole without parts.
                      That is something to definitely contemplate. Thank you.

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                      • It definitely violates the laws of Western Logic. Did I say that correctly?

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                        • Originally posted by Machinist View Post

                          That is something to definitely contemplate. Thank you.
                          You are very welcome.
                          . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

                          . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

                          Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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                          • So god Himself isn't really a Trinity per se, and the Trinity isn't really "held together". The Trinity is simply 3 ways in which God has interacted with man.

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                            • Originally posted by Machinist View Post
                              So god Himself isn't really a Trinity per se, and the Trinity isn't really "held together". The Trinity is simply 3 ways in which God has interacted with man.
                              If that is how you want to frame God being three distinct Persons. Not three modes, but three distinct Persons.

                              The one identified as the Son of God can be said to be the reason for creation. And has always been the reason God has always been three distinct Persons. See John 1:18 KJV, Colossians 1:14-18 KJV, John 1:1-3 KJV.
                              . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

                              . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

                              Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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                              • Originally posted by 37818 View Post
                                If that is how you want to frame God being three distinct Persons. Not three modes, but three distinct Persons.

                                The one identified as the Son of God can be said to be the reason for creation. And has always been the reason God has always been three distinct Persons. See John 1:18 KJV, Colossians 1:14-18 KJV, John 1:1-3 KJV.
                                The Son. You mean Jesus, no?

                                He is reason for creation?

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