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Originally posted by Seeker View PostIt does no good just to assert that my assertion is absurd without justification. That makes your assertion just as ''absurd'' as mine.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostPerhaps you missed it, but I provided an examble of why your assertion was absurd. I have no idea why you're revisiting this. You may also want to brush up on the meaning of "absurd"; in fairness, you're not a native English speaker.
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Originally posted by Seeker View PostDear Twebbers,
Christian doctrine cannot be true. First off, there are dozens, hundreds of Christian doctrines which are mutually exclusive. Two, they are full of contradictions. And third, because truth is the relation between description and that which is described. Well, a large chunk of Christian doctrine is about Christian doctrine. Thus, it is self-referential and leads nowhere.
Comments?Last edited by shunyadragon; 06-24-2020, 10:40 AM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostThe problem is the dominant doctrines and dogma such as the Virgin Birth, sacrifice for forgiveness of sins, and Original Sin, are based, are grounded in versions of ancient tribal beliefs and culture of the Middle East.
Old does not equal wrong, or bad.
New does not equal correct, or good.~Formerly known as Chrawnus~
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostJP Holding's short e-book on the Trinity explains it in a way that even I can understand. (Though the obvious question is that if his interpretation is correct, why did the early church fathers have so much trouble understanding it?)"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" Attrib. Seneca 4 BCE - 65 CE
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Originally posted by Seeker View PostDear Twebbers,
Christian doctrine cannot be true. First off, there are dozens, hundreds of Christian doctrines which are mutually exclusive. Two, they are full of contradictions. And third, because truth is the relation between description and that which is described. Well, a large chunk of Christian doctrine is about Christian doctrine. Thus, it is self-referential and leads nowhere.
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And, is truth what your post says it is ?
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Originally posted by Rushing Jaws View PostThere is a lot of truth in that. Although, what exactly have you mind in statement 2 ?
You have many examples here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heresy_in_Christianity
And here more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Church
Many Christians have ideas about god and religion that are incompatible with those of other Christians. This is not simply an 'open question' issue, as in science, where there is disagreement on aspects that have not yet been resolved. This is about the very fundamental dogmas that each group considers to be revealed and unchanging truth.
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