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    Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
    A truly great man has moved on.

    I am curious, what are your view on Graham? I think that it can be phrased respectfully, even if one does disagree.

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    Originally posted by simplicio View Post
    A truly great man has moved on.

    I am curious, what are your view on Graham? I think that it can be phrased respectfully, even if one does disagree.
    I obviously don't agree with his religious beliefs. He did appear, to me, to be one of the few televangelists who was not in it for himself, though he did amass a $25m fortune as a result of his profession. Still, I do not recall there being a scandal regarding the man. If his fortune was from the sale of his books and speaking fees, I see nothing wrong with it. If his fortune was amassed at the collection plate, my view of him would drop significantly. He certainly played a significant role as an advisor to the most powerful people on the planet.
    Last edited by Cow Poke; 02-21-2018, 12:01 PM.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
      I obviously don't agree with his religious beliefs. He did appear, to me, to be one of the few televangelists who was not in it for himself, though he did amass a $25m fortune as a result of his profession. Still, I do not recall there being a scandal regarding the man. If his fortune was from the sale of his books and speaking fees, I see nothing wrong with it. If his fortune was amassed at the collection plate, my view of him would drop significantly. He certainly played a significant role as an advisor to the most powerful people on the planet.
      If I recall the collection plate went to the churches of community he spoke in for them to use to help their community.
      Last edited by Cow Poke; 02-21-2018, 12:02 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
        If I recall the collection plate went to the churches of community he spoke in for them to use to help their community.
        That would not surprise me in the least.
        The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy...returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. Martin Luther King

        I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong. Frederick Douglas

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        • #5
          Originally posted by carpedm9587 View Post
          I obviously don't agree with his religious beliefs. He did appear, to me, to be one of the few televangelists who was not in it for himself, though he did amass a $25m fortune as a result of his profession. Still, I do not recall there being a scandal regarding the man. If his fortune was from the sale of his books and speaking fees, I see nothing wrong with it. If his fortune was amassed at the collection plate, my view of him would drop significantly. He certainly played a significant role as an advisor to the most powerful people on the planet.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by simplicio View Post
            A truly great man has moved on.

            I am curious, what are your view on Graham? I think that it can be phrased respectfully, even if one does disagree.
            If you can truly know the trees by their fruit then there's a problem. But unlike carpe, I do have a problem with these multi-millionaire christian preachers.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by simplicio View Post
              I am curious, what are your view on Graham?
              A genuinely committed follower of Christ...
              Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JimL View Post
                But unlike carpe, I do have a problem with these multi-millionaire christian preachers.
                Of course Jim, like all leftists you are terminally envious of any one who has more than you...
                Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                • #9
                  When he was caught saying he felt newspapers had a leftist jewish overinfluence and got caught after a bunch of nixon tapes were released he didnt hide or cover it up. He immediatly admitted that what he said was wrong.

                  He was commited to his wife, son, calling, and lord. He seemed like a hero to me.
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                  • #10
                    He was simple baptist preacher. Never did any of that prosperity, health and wealth stuff. Never showed off. Never tried to sell you anything other than Jesus. He just preached the gospel and asked people to accept Jesus. And they did by the thousands.

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                    • #11
                      They're interviewing JOEL OSTEEN on Billy Graham! That's like interviewing Pee Wee Herman on Superman, only worse! (Maybe interviewing Ma Barker about Sister Teresa?)
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        They're interviewing JOEL OSTEEN on Billy Graham! That's like interviewing Pee Wee Herman on Superman, only worse! (Maybe interviewing Ma Barker about Sister Teresa?)
                        Gah!

                        Who's next? Benny Hinn?

                        These charlatans like Joel want to associate themselves with his reputation. They figure he can't complain now that he is dead. Maybe Franklin will speak up.

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                        • #13
                          Franklin doesnt let anyone mess with his father.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by simplicio View Post
                            I am curious, what are your view on Graham? I think that it can be phrased respectfully, even if one does disagree.
                            So far as I have ever known, he was a man of considerable personal integrity. In the judgment of some unbelievers, what he said on the Nixon tape was just inexcusable. That was not my judgment when I first about it, and I respect and fully accept his apology for it.

                            I strongly disagree with the message he preached, but I will not demonize him or anyone else just for preaching it. He was apparently a good man, but good men can and do believe bad things.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              Gah!

                              Who's next? Benny Hinn?

                              These charlatans like Joel want to associate themselves with his reputation. They figure he can't complain now that he is dead. Maybe Franklin will speak up.
                              Franklin Graham is as big a charlatan as the rest of them, and his father didn't do bad in the business either.

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