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  • Barna's Biblical Worldview Bilge

    The NTB article. Most of its content is from a Christian Post article.

    IMO it's worth less than a steaming pile of horsey poo without knowing the actual questions. I've searched enough to become frustrated. AFAICT, there is no free and open way to access them, if there is a way at all.
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  • #2
    Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post
    The NTB article. Most of its content is from a Christian Post article.

    IMO it's worth less than a steaming pile of horsey poo without knowing the actual questions. I've searched enough to become frustrated. AFAICT, there is no free and open way to access them, if there is a way at all.
    TRACI GRIGGS: How common are you finding this biblical worldview among Christians?


    DR. BARNA: If we look at people who qualify by our questioning as “born again Christians,” meaning not that they call themselves that, but that they say that when they die, they know that they will go to heaven, but only because they’ve confessed their sins and have accepted Jesus Christ as their savior. Even among that group—which most of the pastors we’ve interviewed over the years would say really constitute the backbone of the Christian Church in America—only 19 percent of those people have a biblical worldview, and they’re only about 30 percent of the population overall.


    For a while there it seemed that there was only one criterion, but digging finds seven points

    2007 Survey

    4014 adults were interviewed. From those surveys, there were 763 adults who described themselves as “evangelical Christian” and 333 who met the 9-question Barna Group definition of an evangelical Christian.
    65% of Americans self-identify as Christians, but research on people's actual beliefs and behavior shows that only about 6% have a biblical worldview.

    Criteria for having a Biblical Worldview
    • 60% less likely to believe that Satan is real
    • 53% less likely to believe that salvation is based on grace, not works
    • 46% less likely to say they have a personal responsibility to share their religious beliefs with others
    • 42% less likely to list their faith in God as the top priority in their life
    • 38% less likely to believe that Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth
    • 27% less likely to contend that the Bible is totally accurate in all of its teachings
    • 23% less likely to say that their life has been greatly transformed by their faith
    “Born again Christians” are defined as people who said they have made a personal commitment to Jesus Christ that is still important in their life today and who also indicated they believe that when they die they will go to Heaven because they had confessed their sins and had accepted Jesus Christ as their savior.
    1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
    .
    ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛
    Scripture before Tradition:
    but that won't prevent others from
    taking it upon themselves to deprive you
    of the right to call yourself Christian.

    ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛

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    • #3
      Originally posted by tabibito View Post
      TRACI GRIGGS: How common are you finding this biblical worldview among Christians?


      DR. BARNA: If we look at people who qualify by our questioning as “born again Christians,” meaning not that they call themselves that, but that they say that when they die, they know that they will go to heaven, but only because they’ve confessed their sins and have accepted Jesus Christ as their savior. Even among that group—which most of the pastors we’ve interviewed over the years would say really constitute the backbone of the Christian Church in America—only 19 percent of those people have a biblical worldview, and they’re only about 30 percent of the population overall.



      For a while there it seemed that there was only one criterion, but digging finds seven points

      2007 Survey

      4014 adults were interviewed. From those surveys, there were 763 adults who described themselves as “evangelical Christian” and 333 who met the 9-question Barna Group definition of an evangelical Christian.
      65% of Americans self-identify as Christians, but research on people's actual beliefs and behavior shows that only about 6% have a biblical worldview.

      Criteria for having a Biblical Worldview
      • 60% less likely to believe that Satan is real
      • 53% less likely to believe that salvation is based on grace, not works
      • 46% less likely to say they have a personal responsibility to share their religious beliefs with others
      • 42% less likely to list their faith in God as the top priority in their life
      • 38% less likely to believe that Jesus Christ lived a sinless life on earth
      • 27% less likely to contend that the Bible is totally accurate in all of its teachings
      • 23% less likely to say that their life has been greatly transformed by their faith
      “Born again Christians” are defined as people who said they have made a personal commitment to Jesus Christ that is still important in their life today and who also indicated they believe that when they die they will go to Heaven because they had confessed their sins and had accepted Jesus Christ as their savior.
      Thanks for finding that, but... sheesh.

      So... they define "has a Biblical worldview" as "meets our criteria for being an 'evangelical,'" then do math -- 19% of 30% -- to arrive at the 6% (as of 2007) of the total U.S. Is that about it?

      And how does "the 9-question Barna Group definition" only lead to 7 points?
      Last edited by NorrinRadd; 03-10-2023, 12:26 AM.
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      Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

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      Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

        Thanks for finding that, but... sheesh.

        So... they define "has a Biblical worldview" as "meets our criteria for being an 'evangelical,'" then do math -- 19% of 30% -- to arrive at the 6% (as of 2007) of the total U.S. Is that about it?

        And how does "the 9-question Barna Group definition" only lead to 7 points?
        There might be an updated version that has more questions, but at a guess, it seems more likely that the questions go into a bit more detail for one (or more) of the points.

        I tend to agree with points 1,3,4,5 with 6 being a definitely maybe depending on nuance.
        1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
        .
        ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛
        Scripture before Tradition:
        but that won't prevent others from
        taking it upon themselves to deprive you
        of the right to call yourself Christian.

        ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛

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        • #5
          I am skeptical at those numbers. Sounds like they are being pharisaic in defining what they believe is a "Biblical World View" to the point that they are excluding everyone who doesn't fit their definition 100%.

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