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  • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Even if the guy has the best intent, it isn't likely to turn out very well.
    Would it create more difficulty than a Baptist going to a Salvation Army chaplain?
    1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω
    "It's bigger inside" might work for a TARDIS - it doesn't work for a bronze sea.

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    • Originally posted by tabibito View Post

      Would it create more difficulty than a Baptist going to a Salvation Army chaplain?
      I would say not even close --- the Salvation Army chaplain would understand that the basics are what's important.

      The old “In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity.”

      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • Originally posted by Sparko View Post

        And yet nobody but you mentioned it, because everyone else knew exactly what I meant. Showing you do indeed have difficulty understanding simple conversations. Or you are trolling. Pick one.
        I repeat that I understood what was written. Apparent eschatological and arcane homiletics is another matter.

        "It ain't necessarily so
        The things that you're liable
        To read in the Bible
        It ain't necessarily so
        ."

        Sportin' Life
        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

          It's a tough read because of the olde English, but there is a neat "easy read" called Little Pilgrim's Progress. I use that as the basis for a series of Children's messages, each week building up to ... "and then, the HUNGRY LIONS roared and..... oh, would you look at that... we've run out of time, so be sure to come back next week".
          I had a version that had the original version on the left side with the modern translation on the right (same with Chaucer's Canterbury Tales) back when I still lived with my parents. IIRC, it was just a slow read that I just set down and never picked back up.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
            I repeat that I understood what was written. Apparent eschatological and arcane homiletics is another matter.
            So basically you are like some AI robot that can only understand the literal words written as looked up in a dictionary? That's pretty much what I was saying. You lack the ability to read the subtext and context of a written conversation to glean the meaning of the author. You also seem to lack a developed sense of humor which goes along with such wooden literalism.

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            • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              I had a version that had the original version on the left side with the modern translation on the right (same with Chaucer's Canterbury Tales) back when I still lived with my parents. IIRC, it was just a slow read that I just set down and never picked back up.
              Yup, it was a slog. I did one of my major papers in seminary on it -- "All the characters in Pilgrim's Progress".
              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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              • Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                So basically you are like some AI robot that can only understand the literal words written as looked up in a dictionary? That's pretty much what I was saying. You lack the ability to read the subtext and context of a written conversation to glean the meaning of the author. You also seem to lack a developed sense of humor which goes along with such wooden literalism.
                That would explain a lot wrt her interaction with me given my free use of colloquialisms and slang as well as my propensity to use a thesaurus as well as dictionary as a punching bag.

                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                  So basically you are like some AI robot that can only understand the literal words written as looked up in a dictionary? That's pretty much what I was saying. You lack the ability to read the subtext and context of a written conversation to glean the meaning of the author. You also seem to lack a developed sense of humor which goes along with such wooden literalism.
                  I miss Mononoke.


                  Securely anchored to the Rock amid every storm of trial, testing or tribulation.

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                  • Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                    So basically you are like some AI robot that can only understand the literal words written as looked up in a dictionary? That's pretty much what I was saying. You lack the ability to read the subtext and context of a written conversation to glean the meaning of the author. You also seem to lack a developed sense of humor which goes along with such wooden literalism.
                    You appear to have either entirely misconstrued or deliberately misinterpreted what I have written.

                    "It ain't necessarily so
                    The things that you're liable
                    To read in the Bible
                    It ain't necessarily so
                    ."

                    Sportin' Life
                    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                    • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                      I would say not even close --- the Salvation Army chaplain would understand that the basics are what's important.

                      The old “In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity.”
                      I don't include baptism in the list of adiaphora, but that's pretty much a side issue here.
                      There are Islamic and Jewish chaplains, and from what I understand, the chaplain's duty is pretty much a matter of counselling rather than a religious vocation. For that, no particular religious belief should be an impediment.
                      1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω
                      "It's bigger inside" might work for a TARDIS - it doesn't work for a bronze sea.

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                      • Originally posted by tabibito View Post

                        I don't include baptism in the list of adiaphora, but that's pretty much a side issue here.
                        There are Islamic and Jewish chaplains, and from what I understand, the chaplain's duty is pretty much a matter of counselling rather than a religious vocation. For that, no particular religious belief should be an impediment.
                        Islam would be a problem for me, but I have never met a Jewish Rabbi who didn't appear to have a good grasp on what Christians actually believe.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                          It's a tough read because of the olde English,
                          There is no such thing as "olde English".

                          Caedmon's Hymn and Beowulf were written in Anglo Saxon [Old English]. Langland's Piers Ploughman and Chaucer's Canterbury Tales were written in Middle English and Bunyan was writing in what is, to all intents and purposes, Modern English.

                          Shakespeare did not write in "olde" English either.
                          Last edited by Hypatia_Alexandria; 09-10-2021, 01:37 PM.
                          "It ain't necessarily so
                          The things that you're liable
                          To read in the Bible
                          It ain't necessarily so
                          ."

                          Sportin' Life
                          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                          • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                            There is no such thing as "olde English".

                            Caedmon's Hymn and Beowulf were written in Anglo Saxon [Old English]. Langland's Piers Ploughman and Chaucer's Canterbury Tales were written in Middle English and Bunyan was writing in what is, to all intents and purposes, Modern English.

                            Shakespeare did not write in "olde" English either.
                            All of which is usually known to people who choose to write "olde English" as a tongue-in-cheek expression. It is a colloquial expression for early-Modern English/Elizabethan English/Shakespearean English, which is what even people who don't know the details refer to when they write "olde English."
                            Last edited by tabibito; 09-10-2021, 01:44 PM.
                            1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω
                            "It's bigger inside" might work for a TARDIS - it doesn't work for a bronze sea.

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                            • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                              You appear to have either entirely misconstrued or deliberately misinterpreted what I have written.
                              That's rich.


                              ...And by "rich" I don't mean "wealthy."

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                              • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                                There is no such thing as "olde English".
                                I actually added that just for you, because I knew you wouldn't be capable of resisting.

                                But yes, there actually is...

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                                Last edited by Cow Poke; 09-10-2021, 02:01 PM.
                                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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