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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
This all seem to be just your opinion.
The first century Jewish Galilean we know as Jesus of Nazareth was a practising Jew.
Some of the more extreme members of other faiths would consider your faith to be "false".
With regard to your notion of Satan. In the Hebrew Bible, as in mainstream Judaism today Satan never appears as Western Christendom has come to perceive him, that is as the leader of some sort of malign empire with an army of forces hostile to God and humanity. In both the Book of Job and Numbers he appears as one of God's, obedient servants, a messenger, or angel, the Hebrew term for messenger [ma’lak] translates into into Greek as [angelos]. In Hebrew, the angels were often called “sons of God” [bene ‘elohim], and were imagined as forming a hierarchy, either as an army, or as the staff found in a royal court.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
What mossrose wrote was a dogmatic statement. "There are only 2 religions" There is no equivocation in that remark.
The first century Jewish Galilean we know as Jesus of Nazareth was a practising Jew.
Some of the more extreme members of other faiths would consider your faith to be "false".
With regard to your notion of Satan. In the Hebrew Bible, as in mainstream Judaism today Satan never appears as Western Christendom has come to perceive him, that is as the leader of some sort of malign empire with an army of forces hostile to God and humanity. In both the Book of Job and Numbers he appears as one of God's, obedient servants, a messenger, or angel, the Hebrew term for messenger [ma’lak] translates into into Greek as [angelos]. In Hebrew, the angels were often called “sons of God” [bene ‘elohim], and were imagined as forming a hierarchy, either as an army, or as the staff found in a royal court.
Yes, Jesus was a Jew. So what? Christianity is the culmination and continuation of the OT Jewish faith, it's the "NEW Covenant". Those following Judaism today are the ones who have fallen away form the true faith.
Yes, other faiths probably do consider Christianity to be "false" - so what? They are wrong.
None of your comments change anything mossy said or what she meant.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
You are again showing that you seem to be autistic or something.
Originally posted by Sparko View PostYour failure to grasp what mossy was saying, even after I explained it to you in quite simple terms, is mind-boggling.
Originally posted by Sparko View PostYes, Jesus was a Jew. So what?
Originally posted by Sparko View PostChristianity is the culmination and continuation of the OT Jewish faith, it's the "NEW Covenant".
Originally posted by Sparko View PostThose following Judaism today are the ones who have fallen away form the true faith.
Originally posted by Sparko View PostYes, other faiths probably do consider Christianity to be "false" - so what? They are wrong.
Originally posted by Sparko View PostNone of your comments change anything mossy said or what she meant.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostI am responding to what was written and how it was phrased. You appear to be contending you can read her mind and know what she meant. Unless she has [via PM] vouchsafed details to you of what she actually intended you are claiming to know something that you do not.
Your contention that you can deduce from one sentence the detailed content of mossrose's thinking on this topic is rather arrogant.
Therefore it might postulated that you are practising the wrong faith.
You offer preconceived theological subjectivity and present it as established fact when it is nothing of the kind.
What a monstrous conceit.
Some adherents to other faiths would say precisely the same about you. Where does that take us?
Once again I do not affect an intimate knowledge of other people's minds. You on the other hand appear to be doing precisely that.
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Originally posted by Sparko View PostNo, what is mind-boggling is that you CAN'T seem to know what she meant while everyone else here can easily see exactly what she meant.
Originally posted by Sparko View PostWow. Such irony and lack of self-awareness!! This takes the cake!
Originally posted by Sparko View PostOne day we will find out.
Originally posted by Sparko View PostNo. I am just a normal person who can understand what other people clearly said
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostUnlike yourself I can only "know" what she wrote and what she wrote regarding "There are only 2 religions" might be construed as somewhat extreme. Your own comments also suggest an underlying notion that "We" are right and everyone else is wrong. Might I suggest the application of a little tolerance and humility?
I have never written "Those following Judaism today are the ones who have fallen away form the true faith." Look to that beam in your eye.
Are you advocating religious wars? Or are you merely resorting to futile eschatological speculation?:
On the contrary, and premised on what you have written, you are claiming you know another person's mind and what they "meant".
Also you could ask that others who have read her post if what I said was correct or not. Take a poll.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostUnlike yourself I can only "know" what she wrote and what she wrote regarding "There are only 2 religions" might be construed as somewhat extreme. Your own comments also suggest an underlying notion that "We" are right and everyone else is wrong. Might I suggest the application of a little tolerance and humility?
I have never written "Those following Judaism today are the ones who have fallen away form the true faith." Look to that beam in your eye.
Are you advocating religious wars? Or are you merely resorting to futile eschatological speculation?:
On the contrary, and premised on what you have written, you are claiming you know another person's mind and what they "meant".
You, on the other hand, are blinded by the lies of Satan and cannot and will not understand unless you repent of your sin and ask for forgiveness and follow Christ.
And stop trying to “construe” what I meant when I said is what I meant.
Also, you’re stupid. And you’ve derailed again.
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Originally posted by mossrose View Post
Sparky and other believers know exactly what I meant and understand it because they are also believers and we have the same understanding of scripture. He doesn’t need to read my mind or that of any other believer who follows scripture.
You, on the other hand, are blinded by the lies of Satan and cannot and will not understand unless you repent of your sin and ask for forgiveness and follow Christ.
And stop trying to “construe” what I meant when I said is what I meant.
Also, you’re stupid. And you’ve derailed again.
One down. Next she should start a poll to see if everyone else understood what you meant.
I can't tell if she is just trolling or really is that unable to understand simple conversations. That is why I was asking if she might be autistic or something. I mean no slight against someone with autism, they are usually highly intelligent. Nick has Asperger's for example. It's just that one of the characteristics of autism is an inability to read social cues and subtext in interactions and conversations. And they tend to respond with highly technical or detached responses where a normal conversation doesn't require it.
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Originally posted by mossrose View Post
Sparky and other believers know exactly what I meant and understand it because they are also believers and we have the same understanding of scripture. He doesn’t need to read my mind or that of any other believer who follows scripture.
You, on the other hand, are blinded by the lies of Satan and cannot and will not understand unless you repent of your sin and ask for forgiveness and follow Christ.
And stop trying to “construe” what I meant when I said is what I meant.
Also, you’re stupid. And you’ve derailed again.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by mossrose View Post
Sparky and other believers know exactly what I meant and understand it because they are also believers and we have the same understanding of scripture. He doesn’t need to read my mind or that of any other believer who follows scripture.
You, on the other hand, are blinded by the lies of Satan and cannot and will not understand unless you repent of your sin and ask for forgiveness and follow Christ.
Or as folks today like to say: "There are none so blind as those who will not see"
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Now you are doing it to me. LOL. I meant that one day we will die and find out if Christianity is the true religion or not.
Originally posted by Sparko View PostSimple solution: Ask mossy what she meant and if I was correct or not.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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