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  • #46
    Originally posted by mossrose View Post

    As I said previously, she proves her ignorance of Christianity with every post she makes.
    You could have just left off the words, "of Christianity" if you wanted.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Sparko View Post

      You could have just left off the words, "of Christianity" if you wanted.
      I guess I could have, at that.


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      • #48
        Originally posted by mossrose View Post

        I guess I could have, at that.
        You Canadians and your superfluous letters.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Sparko View Post

          This all seem to be just your opinion.
          What mossrose wrote was a dogmatic statement. "There are only 2 religions" There is no equivocation in that remark.

          The first century Jewish Galilean we know as Jesus of Nazareth was a practising Jew.

          Some of the more extreme members of other faiths would consider your faith to be "false".

          With regard to your notion of Satan. In the Hebrew Bible, as in mainstream Judaism today Satan never appears as Western Christendom has come to perceive him, that is as the leader of some sort of malign empire with an army of forces hostile to God and humanity. In both the Book of Job and Numbers he appears as one of God's, obedient servants, a messenger, or angel, the Hebrew term for messenger [ma’lak] translates into into Greek as [angelos]. In Hebrew, the angels were often called “sons of God” [bene ‘elohim], and were imagined as forming a hierarchy, either as an army, or as the staff found in a royal court.

          "It ain't necessarily so
          The things that you're liable
          To read in the Bible
          It ain't necessarily so
          ."

          Sportin' Life
          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

            What mossrose wrote was a dogmatic statement. "There are only 2 religions" There is no equivocation in that remark.

            The first century Jewish Galilean we know as Jesus of Nazareth was a practising Jew.

            Some of the more extreme members of other faiths would consider your faith to be "false".

            With regard to your notion of Satan. In the Hebrew Bible, as in mainstream Judaism today Satan never appears as Western Christendom has come to perceive him, that is as the leader of some sort of malign empire with an army of forces hostile to God and humanity. In both the Book of Job and Numbers he appears as one of God's, obedient servants, a messenger, or angel, the Hebrew term for messenger [ma’lak] translates into into Greek as [angelos]. In Hebrew, the angels were often called “sons of God” [bene ‘elohim], and were imagined as forming a hierarchy, either as an army, or as the staff found in a royal court.
            You are again showing that you seem to be autistic or something. Your failure to grasp what mossy was saying, even after I explained it to you in quite simple terms, is mind-boggling.

            Yes, Jesus was a Jew. So what? Christianity is the culmination and continuation of the OT Jewish faith, it's the "NEW Covenant". Those following Judaism today are the ones who have fallen away form the true faith.
            Yes, other faiths probably do consider Christianity to be "false" - so what? They are wrong.

            None of your comments change anything mossy said or what she meant.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post

              You are again showing that you seem to be autistic or something.
              I am responding to what was written and how it was phrased. You appear to be contending you can read her mind and know what she meant. Unless she has [via PM] vouchsafed details to you of what she actually intended you are claiming to know something that you do not.

              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              Your failure to grasp what mossy was saying, even after I explained it to you in quite simple terms, is mind-boggling.
              Your contention that you can deduce from one sentence the detailed content of mossrose's thinking on this topic is rather arrogant.

              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              Yes, Jesus was a Jew. So what?
              Therefore it might postulated that you are practising the wrong faith.

              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              Christianity is the culmination and continuation of the OT Jewish faith, it's the "NEW Covenant".
              You offer preconceived theological subjectivity and present it as established fact when it is nothing of the kind.

              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              Those following Judaism today are the ones who have fallen away form the true faith.
              What a monstrous conceit.

              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              Yes, other faiths probably do consider Christianity to be "false" - so what? They are wrong.
              Some adherents to other faiths would say precisely the same about you. Where does that take us?

              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              None of your comments change anything mossy said or what she meant.
              Once again I do not affect an intimate knowledge of other people's minds. You on the other hand appear to be doing precisely that.
              "It ain't necessarily so
              The things that you're liable
              To read in the Bible
              It ain't necessarily so
              ."

              Sportin' Life
              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                I am responding to what was written and how it was phrased. You appear to be contending you can read her mind and know what she meant. Unless she has [via PM] vouchsafed details to you of what she actually intended you are claiming to know something that you do not.

                Your contention that you can deduce from one sentence the detailed content of mossrose's thinking on this topic is rather arrogant.
                No, what is mind-boggling is that you CAN'T seem to know what she meant while everyone else here can easily see exactly what she meant. That is why I was asking if you might have some autism or similar condition that renders you unable to understand simple conversations.

                Therefore it might postulated that you are practising the wrong faith.
                You are free to do so.

                You offer preconceived theological subjectivity and present it as established fact when it is nothing of the kind.

                What a monstrous conceit.
                Wow. Such irony and lack of self-awareness!! This takes the cake!


                Some adherents to other faiths would say precisely the same about you. Where does that take us?
                One day we will find out. In the meantime, all this is still irrelevant to what mossrose said and meant.

                Once again I do not affect an intimate knowledge of other people's minds. You on the other hand appear to be doing precisely that.
                No. I am just a normal person who can understand what other people clearly said, while you seem unable to do that. You are like a colorblind person complaining that a normally sighted person has no idea what the color red looks like and is arrogant for claiming to know.
                Last edited by Sparko; 09-09-2021, 08:31 AM.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  No, what is mind-boggling is that you CAN'T seem to know what she meant while everyone else here can easily see exactly what she meant.
                  Unlike yourself I can only "know" what she wrote and what she wrote regarding "There are only 2 religions" might be construed as somewhat extreme. Your own comments also suggest an underlying notion that "We" are right and everyone else is wrong. Might I suggest the application of a little tolerance and humility?


                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  Wow. Such irony and lack of self-awareness!! This takes the cake!
                  I have never written "Those following Judaism today are the ones who have fallen away form the true faith." Look to that beam in your eye.

                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  One day we will find out.
                  Are you advocating religious wars? Or are you merely resorting to futile eschatological speculation?:

                  Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                  No. I am just a normal person who can understand what other people clearly said
                  On the contrary, and premised on what you have written, you are claiming you know another person's mind and what they "meant".

                  "It ain't necessarily so
                  The things that you're liable
                  To read in the Bible
                  It ain't necessarily so
                  ."

                  Sportin' Life
                  Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                    Unlike yourself I can only "know" what she wrote and what she wrote regarding "There are only 2 religions" might be construed as somewhat extreme. Your own comments also suggest an underlying notion that "We" are right and everyone else is wrong. Might I suggest the application of a little tolerance and humility?


                    I have never written "Those following Judaism today are the ones who have fallen away form the true faith." Look to that beam in your eye.

                    Are you advocating religious wars? Or are you merely resorting to futile eschatological speculation?:
                    Now you are doing it to me. LOL. I meant that one day we will die and find out if Christianity is the true religion or not.

                    On the contrary, and premised on what you have written, you are claiming you know another person's mind and what they "meant".
                    Simple solution: Ask mossy what she meant and if I was correct or not.

                    Also you could ask that others who have read her post if what I said was correct or not. Take a poll.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                      Unlike yourself I can only "know" what she wrote and what she wrote regarding "There are only 2 religions" might be construed as somewhat extreme. Your own comments also suggest an underlying notion that "We" are right and everyone else is wrong. Might I suggest the application of a little tolerance and humility?


                      I have never written "Those following Judaism today are the ones who have fallen away form the true faith." Look to that beam in your eye.

                      Are you advocating religious wars? Or are you merely resorting to futile eschatological speculation?:

                      On the contrary, and premised on what you have written, you are claiming you know another person's mind and what they "meant".
                      Sparky and other believers know exactly what I meant and understand it because they are also believers and we have the same understanding of scripture. He doesn’t need to read my mind or that of any other believer who follows scripture.

                      You, on the other hand, are blinded by the lies of Satan and cannot and will not understand unless you repent of your sin and ask for forgiveness and follow Christ.


                      And stop trying to “construe” what I meant when I said is what I meant.


                      Also, you’re stupid. And you’ve derailed again.



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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by mossrose View Post

                        Sparky and other believers know exactly what I meant and understand it because they are also believers and we have the same understanding of scripture. He doesn’t need to read my mind or that of any other believer who follows scripture.

                        You, on the other hand, are blinded by the lies of Satan and cannot and will not understand unless you repent of your sin and ask for forgiveness and follow Christ.


                        And stop trying to “construe” what I meant when I said is what I meant.


                        Also, you’re stupid. And you’ve derailed again.


                        One down. Next she should start a poll to see if everyone else understood what you meant.

                        I can't tell if she is just trolling or really is that unable to understand simple conversations. That is why I was asking if she might be autistic or something. I mean no slight against someone with autism, they are usually highly intelligent. Nick has Asperger's for example. It's just that one of the characteristics of autism is an inability to read social cues and subtext in interactions and conversations. And they tend to respond with highly technical or detached responses where a normal conversation doesn't require it.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by mossrose View Post

                          Sparky and other believers know exactly what I meant and understand it because they are also believers and we have the same understanding of scripture. He doesn’t need to read my mind or that of any other believer who follows scripture.

                          You, on the other hand, are blinded by the lies of Satan and cannot and will not understand unless you repent of your sin and ask for forgiveness and follow Christ.


                          And stop trying to “construe” what I meant when I said is what I meant.


                          Also, you’re stupid. And you’ve derailed again.

                          And my very best wishes to you as well.
                          "It ain't necessarily so
                          The things that you're liable
                          To read in the Bible
                          It ain't necessarily so
                          ."

                          Sportin' Life
                          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by mossrose View Post

                            Sparky and other believers know exactly what I meant and understand it because they are also believers and we have the same understanding of scripture. He doesn’t need to read my mind or that of any other believer who follows scripture.

                            You, on the other hand, are blinded by the lies of Satan and cannot and will not understand unless you repent of your sin and ask for forgiveness and follow Christ.
                            Scripture Verse: Jeremiah 5:21

                            Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by mossrose View Post



                              Also, you’re stupid. And you’ve derailed again.

                              Inadvertently, she has provided a perfect example of why an atheist shouldn't be a Chaplain. They just don't understand.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                                Now you are doing it to me. LOL. I meant that one day we will die and find out if Christianity is the true religion or not.
                                [My emphasis] Do I detect a note of equivocation?

                                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                                Simple solution: Ask mossy what she meant and if I was correct or not.
                                She has conveyed her opinion of me and I have offered her my best wishes.



                                "It ain't necessarily so
                                The things that you're liable
                                To read in the Bible
                                It ain't necessarily so
                                ."

                                Sportin' Life
                                Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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