What is a 'Christ'?

[firstfloor]

[One Bad Pig]

It looks to me like Eisenman is ascribing to Hippolytus a view which he is reporting as being held by a heretical group. And he conveniently doesn't cite where he's exactly getting the information from, so it's hard to check.

Eisenman, IIRC, is rather far out of the mainstream on DSS scholarship.

"Christ" simply means "anointed one"; Jesus is the one anointed. The view given above thus ignores the meaning of the word 'Christ.' Does that help?

[firstfloor]

It looks to me like Eisenman is ascribing to Hippolytus a view which he is reporting as being held by a heretical group. And he conveniently doesn't cite where he's exactly getting the information from, so it's hard to check.

Eisenman, IIRC, is rather far out of the mainstream on DSS scholarship.

"Christ" simply means "anointed one"; Jesus is the one anointed. The view given above thus ignores the meaning of the word 'Christ.' Does that help?

And the act of anointing Jesus is accomplished by God through baptism and the use of a dove?

[One Bad Pig]

And the act of anointing Jesus is accomplished by God through baptism and the use of a dove?

More or less, yeah.

[Cow Poke]

Actually, a better question, Alex, is "Who is THE Christ"?

[Cow Poke]

And the act of anointing Jesus is accomplished by God through baptism and the use of a dove?

That's kinda like saying the act of establishing a POTUS is accomplished by having an inauguration. The baptism was a public recognition of who Christ was.

[shunyadragon]

Biblically how many 'Christs' are there in the OT and prophesy?

Does the OT specify different kinds of Christ?

[firstfloor]

More or less, yeah.

And the anointing is linked, of course, to the start of his ministry and his new ability to perform miracles.

[One Bad Pig]

And the anointing is linked, of course, to the start of his ministry and his new ability to perform miracles.

The start of his ministry, yes. It did not confer on him any new abilities, according to orthodox belief.

[firstfloor]

That's kinda like saying the act of establishing a POTUS is accomplished by having an inauguration. The baptism was a public recognition of who Christ was.

It can be understood differently; that Jesus was transformed by the Holy Spirit having been an ordinary human being from birth. You have to discount the story of the virgin birth but that is not difficult.

[seer]

The Christ is the ONLY unique Son of God...

[Cow Poke]

It can be understood differently;

Sure, anything can be understood differently.

that Jesus was transformed by the Holy Spirit having been an ordinary human being from birth.

Yeah, cause ordinary beings are produced everyday by a virgin.

You have to discount the story of the virgin birth but that is not difficult.

Then you might as well discount the sinless life of Christ, and that he was, indeed, the Messiah.

[Cow Poke]

And the anointing is linked, of course, to the start of his ministry

pretty much, yes

and his new ability to perform miracles.

meh... we don't know that.

[firstfloor]

meh... we don't know that.

[Cow Poke]

But you do realise that Messiah meaning Anointed usually refers to a person

Christ was quite unusual on a whole number of points.

No, because He was with God from the beginning.

He was establishing baptism as a symbol of obedience.

He did so because he was not sinless.

Nope. He did so because He chose to.