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  • #16
    Originally posted by fm93 View Post
    Your attempt to spin his repulsive qualities into something positive is not particularly cute and is completely wrong-headed.
    I see you're dropping arrogant intelligent.

    In terms of accurately representing his ideological opponents and actually being correct, which arguments are supposed to accomplish, no such adjective or adverb can be applied. He rarely, if ever, makes any effort to even intellectually understand where an ideological opponent is coming from, let alone emotionally.
    Only you feels-obsessed people demand emotional regard. You preach about how argumentation should be carried out, yet you bring up the utterly irrelevant concerns about feels of the listeners that don't have anything to do with the truth-value of the arguments.

    That's what I meant by a lack of empathy.
    As I said: he doesn't care about the readers' feels. Or more accurately, his targets' feels.

    I'll leave you with a blog devoted to refuting his logical and behavioral errors.
    http://whatismattwalshwrongabouttoday.com/
    Probably crappy like most of your posts, but I'll take a look.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by fm93 View Post
      Your attempt to spin his repulsive qualities into something positive is not particularly cute and is completely wrong-headed. I'll grant you that his rhetoric is expressive and skillful. But that's all that's expressive and skillful. In terms of accurately representing his ideological opponents and actually being correct, which arguments are supposed to accomplish, no such adjective or adverb can be applied. He rarely, if ever, makes any effort to even intellectually understand where an ideological opponent is coming from, let alone emotionally. That's what I meant by a lack of empathy. He sees something that goes contrary to what he believes in and dives into an attack without trying to understand.

      I'll leave you with a blog devoted to refuting his logical and behavioral errors.
      http://whatismattwalshwrongabouttoday.com/
      It seems a bit weird to complain about Matt Walsh unfairly mis-characterizing his opponents' arguments and then link to a blog dedicated to, apparently, unfairly mis-characterizing Matt Walsh's arguments.

      And I'm saying this as one who's read only a small handful of Walsh's articles, and feel no particular allegiance toward the guy.
      I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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      • #18
        I have a great deal of trouble coping with people who use invincible ignorance as a battering ram against the world, like:

        YEC Christians who refuse to even engage with science
        Anti-vaxers who endanger other children
        Belligerent idiots (you know who you are, or maybe you don't since you have a character disorder)
        Mormons (I mean, seriously, you believe THAT?)
        Scientologists (see above)
        Anybody who is full of bluster and thinks it's assertiveness
        People who have no manners
        Short people
        Left handed people
        Extreme conservatives
        Extreme liberals
        Anyone who gives a genuine line of thought a bad name like stupid Christians, stupid atheists and anyone above.

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        • #19
          This is probably going to sound dumb and overly self-righteous (or some such), but I can't really think of anyone that I would say I just can't stand. But maybe that's also because I've been very distracted for the last day.
          I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
            This is probably going to sound dumb and overly self-righteous (or some such), but I can't really think of anyone that I would say I just can't stand. But maybe that's also because I've been very distracted for the last day.
            No, I feel you brother. I generally don't think of people in those terms either.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by pancreasman View Post
              I have a great deal of trouble coping with people who use invincible ignorance as a battering ram against the world, like:

              YEC Christians who refuse to even engage with science
              Anti-vaxers who endanger other children
              Belligerent idiots (you know who you are, or maybe you don't since you have a character disorder)
              Mormons (I mean, seriously, you believe THAT?)
              Scientologists (see above)
              Anybody who is full of bluster and thinks it's assertiveness
              People who have no manners
              Short people
              Left handed people
              Extreme conservatives
              Extreme liberals
              Anyone who gives a genuine line of thought a bad name like stupid Christians, stupid atheists and anyone above.
              What's the problem with left-handers?
              "Obama is not a brown-skinned, anti-war socialist who gives away free healthcare. You are thinking of Jesus." Episcopal Bishop of Arizona

              I remember WinAce. Gone but not forgotten.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by pancreasman View Post
                I have a great deal of trouble coping with people who use invincible ignorance as a battering ram against the world, like:
                ...
                Left handed people
                ...
                Aussies!
                "If you can ever make any major religion look absolutely ludicrous, chances are you haven't understood it"
                -Ravi Zacharias, The New Age: A foreign bird with a local walk

                Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
                1 Corinthians 16:13

                "...he [Doherty] is no historian and he is not even conversant with the historical discussions of the very matters he wants to pontificate on."
                -Ben Witherington III

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                • #23
                  Joffrey...
                  Cersei...
                  Walder Frey...
                  Meryn Trant...
                  Tywin Lannister...
                  ~Formerly known as Chrawnus~

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                  • #24
                    Krista's not hateful. She's an anti-feminist satirist.

                    been following her a while now. you should check out her feeds.

                    http://www.femitheist.net/2015/02/si...t-the-mrm.html
                    http://www.femitheist.net/2014/07/ma...-autonomy.html
                    http://www.femitheist.net/2014/12/on...prejudice.html
                    http://www.femitheist.net/2014/08/ye...alifornia.html
                    www.femitheist.net/p/cp-faq.html
                    http://www.femitheist.net/p/importan...imer-read.html
                    http://www.femitheist.net/2014/12/de...discourse.html

                    she was also doing feminist critical videos years ago. been much harsher & more elaborate since.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAJVMXkloQw
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3lbwFMXVNI

                    &

                    http://ask.fm/Femitheist/answer/127737766635
                    https://plus.google.com/u/0/+Femithe...ts/c1jxd6tdusb

                    etc.

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                    • #25
                      I think she did claim to be e troll at one point but this after amassing a large amount of backlash for her comments. Admittedly I haven't seen a lot of her recently so I don't know what's she been doing for the last 6 months or so.
                      ďI didnít go to religion to make me happy. I always knew a bottle of Port would do that. If you want a religion to make you feel really comfortable, I certainly donít recommend Christianity.Ē - C.S. Lewis

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Paprika View Post
                        Only you feels-obsessed people demand emotional regard. You preach about how argumentation should be carried out, yet you bring up the utterly irrelevant concerns about feels of the listeners that don't have anything to do with the truth-value of the arguments.
                        But I specifically said that I was referring to the intellectual aspect. I know empathy is often immediately associated with understanding people's emotions, but the definition actually also includes understanding people's thoughts, attitudes and experiences. That's what I had in mind. He rarely, if ever, makes any effort to understand why people intellectually believe the way they do about something, or what people have experienced that's shaped their thoughts on an issue.


                        Originally posted by Zymologist View Post
                        It seems a bit weird to complain about Matt Walsh unfairly mis-characterizing his opponents' arguments and then link to a blog dedicated to, apparently, unfairly mis-characterizing Matt Walsh's arguments.
                        But the blog doesn't mischaracterize his arguments.
                        Learn to do right; seek justice. Defend the oppressed. Take up the cause of the fatherless; plead the case of the widow.--Isaiah 1:17

                        I don't think that all forms o[f] slavery are inherently immoral.--seer

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by fm93 View Post
                          But I specifically said that I was referring to the intellectual aspect. I know empathy is often immediately associated with understanding people's emotions, but the definition actually also includes understanding people's thoughts, attitudes and experiences. That's what I had in mind. He rarely, if ever, makes any effort to understand why people intellectually believe the way they do about something, or what people have experienced that's shaped their thoughts on an issue.
                          And why should he?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by fm93 View Post
                            But the blog doesn't mischaracterize his arguments.
                            I just skimmed a post or two, and it didn't seem to be all that fair of a treatment. In fact, your comment to Paprika about making an effort to understand why people believe could seem to apply quite well to that blog as well. It just seemed odd to me to use such over-the-top harsh language against Walsh, and then link to a blog like that.

                            But I don't even really read Matt Walsh, and don't really care all that much.
                            I DENOUNCE DONALD J. TRUMP AND ALL HIS IMMORAL ACTS.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by fm93 View Post
                              2) seer. Part of me holds out hope that he's actually just a mean-spirited liberal who's posting as a grossly exaggerated parody of a conservative Christian. I'd be really disappointed if there's a real person who's every single negative stereotype of a conservative--a narrow-minded, fearmongering old person who's out of touch with reality.
                              I honestly don't get the sort of negative attitude that seer is getting on these forums. The only thing you could possibly accuse him of is being naive and uninformed. It's kind of ironic actually that he gets called out for being out of touch with reality while ignoring the many of the people that argue with him, such as Tassman, JimL and the Pixie, are all far more slimier, narrow-minded and intellectually dishonest, and definitely more out of touch with reality than seer himself. And then you get people like starlight, who's only apparent reason for being on these forums seems to be to completely validate every single one of seer's "fearmongering" () threads.
                              ~Formerly known as Chrawnus~

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                              • #30
                                Here's my own list, in no particular order, all of them TWebbers:

                                whag
                                firstfloor
                                shunyadragon
                                Tassman
                                starlight

                                I should not need to post any reasons for why I chose this particular list. If you're unable to see why they're the kind of people who would make most people rip out their hair in frustration you probably deserve an honorary position on my list.

                                ETA: removed JimL and added starlight. While I do feel JimL deserves a spot, I feel like starlight deserves it even more, and unfortunately for JimL, I can only list 5 winners.
                                Last edited by JonathanL; 05-17-2015, 10:07 PM.
                                ~Formerly known as Chrawnus~

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