Infant sacrifice

[JimL]

Yes, God just repaid the Egyptians for what they had done to the male children of the Hebrews.

Do two wrongs make a right in your book seer? I highly doubt that if some psychopathic moron killed your infant that you would take it out on the psychopaths infant. But maybe i'm wrong about that.

[Jedidiah]

"Contradiction"

This is JimL. You can not expect rational thinking from him, young fella.

[seer]

Do two wrongs make a right in your book seer? I highly doubt that if some psychopathic moron killed your infant that you would take it out on the psychopaths infant. But maybe i'm wrong about that.

Of course in your world Jim there is no objective wrong - just opinion.

[JimL]

Of course in your world Jim there is no objective wrong - just opinion.

What you are missing seer is that in actuallity there is no objective wrong in your world, so long as the action is taken by God or done in the name of God. Is it objectively wrong to take the life of an innocent because his father offended you? If you agree that it is, then your God is objectively wrong for killing all the first born of the Egyptians. Now lets see if you can be honest in your answer. Is the willful murdering of your enemies children objectively wrong or not?

[Irate Canadian]

The fact that it is later condemded has nothing to do with the fact that it was practiced prior to that. Besides Leviticus 20 does not condemn child sacrifice, it condemns the Israelites sacrificing their child to molech. It also prescribes all kinds of atrocious penalties for sins, for which Jesus later says "he who has not sinned cast the first stone. Contradiction!

I haven't seen arguing like this since I last visited 4chan....

[rogue06]

This is JimL. You can not expect rational thinking from him, young fella.

What he usually opines can hardly be regarded as thinking, rational or otherwise.

[seer]

What you are missing seer is that in actuallity there is no objective wrong in your world, so long as the action is taken by God or done in the name of God. Is it objectively wrong to take the life of an innocent because his father offended you? If you agree that it is, then your God is objectively wrong for killing all the first born of the Egyptians. Now lets see if you can be honest in your answer. Is the willful murdering of your enemies children objectively wrong or not?

We have been over this James. God has the prerogative to take any life that He has given. We do not have that right expect in limited circumstances. The second point is that when God takes the life of a child that life is not ended. That child is now with God. Happy and loved.

[kiwimac]

We have been over this James. God has the prerogative to take any life that He has given. We do not have that right expect in limited circumstances. The second point is that when God takes the life of a child that life is not ended. That child is now with God. Happy and loved.

So you turn G-d into a monster and are happy with it. Wonderful~

[Jedidiah]

So you turn G-d into a monster and are happy with it. Wonderful~

If you read that into seer's post I doubt your reading ability..

[kiwimac]

If you read that into seer's post I doubt your reading ability..

Please do tell me what I have missed!

[JimL]

We have been over this James. God has the prerogative to take any life that He has given. We do not have that right expect in limited circumstances. The second point is that when God takes the life of a child that life is not ended. That child is now with God. Happy and loved.

Whether or not God has the perogative to act, says nothing as to whether the act itself is a good or an evil. This is why I said that in your world there is no objective right or wrong because in your world there is a God for whom there is no right or wrong. Second, the rest of your post is entirely fabricated to suit your beliefs, since there is nothing in the story of the Exodus that says what you assert to be the facts. You made it up seer.

[JonathanL]

So you turn G-d into a monster and are happy with it. Wonderful~

And you would rather turn Him into a sissy who has to bend over backwards to please the inane whims of the morally 'outraged' crowd?

[KingsGambit]

This story is, in fact, in the Bible. I really hope you're not taking the tack of Peter Enns who writes off most of the Old Testament's morals as violent and not really reflecting the will of God.

[JimL]

And you would rather turn Him into a sissy who has to bend over backwards to please the inane whims of the morally 'outraged' crowd?

No, we would rather that he conform to our understanding of goodness else your definition of him as good means absolutely nothing.

[JonathanL]

No, we would rather that he conform to our understanding of goodness else your definition of him as good means absolutely nothing.

And I would rather conform my understanding of goodness to what the Sovereign Ruler of Goodness views as good, rather than what some morally bankrupt human beings thinks they can get away with calling goodness.