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  • Originally posted by whag View Post
    Who ruled over the the 3,000 men of Judah?

    And there's no "coming clean" on fundamentalist literalism being a minority view. Most historians acknowledge Jewish mythology and folklore.
    Did the Philistines order 3,000 men of Judah to capture Samson or not?

    No one here is talking about fundamentalist literalism. Provide something to justify your assertion that "most" "scholars" "agree" "with you" on "Samson" "not" "being literal". Furthermore, the acknowledgement of Jewish mythology and folklore has absolutely nothing to do with the historicity of the accounts of the Old Testament. Please stop acting like an ignorant buffoon.
    The fact that science cannot make any pronouncement about ethical principles has been misinterpreted as indicating that there are no such principles; while in fact the search for truth presupposes ethics. - Karl Popper, 1987

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    • Originally posted by Dante View Post
      Did the Philistines order 3,000 men of Judah to capture Samson or not?
      What does that have to do with if they heard of his super hero strength?

      Originally posted by Dante View Post
      No one here is talking about fundamentalist literalism. Provide something to justify your assertion that "most" "scholars" "agree" "with you" on "Samson" "not" "being literal". Furthermore, the acknowledgement of Jewish mythology and folklore has absolutely nothing to do with the historicity of the accounts of the Old Testament. Please stop acting like an ignorant buffoon.
      Please stop defending a literal interpretation of Jewish folklore. Did Samson literally have sex with a prostitute and then tear off the gate? C'mon, man. You're being stupid.

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      • Originally posted by whag View Post
        What does that have to do with if they heard of his super hero strength?
        The Philistines did not order the 3,000 men of Judah to capture Samson, so you were wrong when you said 3,000 men were ordered to capture Samson. Furthermore, since what you said is not true, therefore your argument that "3,000 would be a tad excessive if they thought he only possessed ordinary strength" is wrong. Here, let me break down your argument like this:
        1. The Philistines ordering "3,000 [men to capture Samson] would be a tad excessive if they thought he only possessed ordinary strength".
        2. The Philistines wouldn't do something so excessive.
        3. Therefore the Philistines must have known of Samson's extraordinary strength (not "super hero strength").

        However,
        2. The Philistines did not order the 3,000 men of Judah to capture Samson.
        3. Therefore, premise 1, [The Philistines ordering "3,000 [men to capture Samson] would be a tad excessive if they thought he only possessed ordinary strength"], is wrong to begin with.

        Originally posted by whag View Post
        Please stop defending a literal interpretation of Jewish folklore. Did Samson literally have sex with a prostitute and then tear off the gate? C'mon, man. You're being stupid.
        Nobody is defending a literal interpretation of Jewish folklore, moron. In the first place, this is not Jewish folklore. No, Samson did not have sex with a prostitute and then tear off the gate; Samson literally had sex with a prostitute, "lay until midnight, and at midnight he arose and took hold of the doors of the city gate and the two posts and pulled them up along with the bars". Are you illiterate? That would explain why you still couldn't justify any of your assertions, least of all the idea that "most" "scholars" "agree" "with you" on "Samson" "not" "being literal". You don't even know what you are saying, how are we to expect you to understand what others are saying?
        Last edited by Dante; 02-14-2015, 09:32 AM.
        The fact that science cannot make any pronouncement about ethical principles has been misinterpreted as indicating that there are no such principles; while in fact the search for truth presupposes ethics. - Karl Popper, 1987

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