Hello everyone, I'm new here. I've been lurking the forum ever since this site got crashed a few years back. I missed a lot of the threads back then. There were a lot of good threads that had what I was looking for but can't find it anymore. I guess all the data was lost? But anyway, my special interest is in Presuppositional Apologetic. I have try to defend it a few times but still suck at it. The reason why I am posting this thread is to get some help from those who enjoy defending the argument. Not sure if this section is for Christians only but it would definitely help if you are one who is already defending the argument. And for those who don't know what Presuppositional Apologetic is, it is basically the argument that one cannot know anything or have knowledge without starting from the biblical God. That said, here's my two question or objections I had the most. Thanks for replying.
1. When you ask the atheist how do he know things to be certain, and he said he doesn't, then he shift the same thing back to you and "neither could you"! How do I respond back?
2. From my experience debating with atheists, they use proof to mean 'seeing'. In other words, to prove that God exist He must show Himself before my eyes, otherwise He doesn't exist.
Here is my response: Just because something appears before your eyes and you saw it does not prove that it exist. You (the atheist) could suffer from a hallucination.
This is his response: Glad you can follow the false logic. Just because you're told God exists from the bible doesn't mean that it does.
Now, I kind of get the idea that he's shifting his presupposition on me. How do I tackle this?
Again, thanks for all the help.
God bless
1. When you ask the atheist how do he know things to be certain, and he said he doesn't, then he shift the same thing back to you and "neither could you"! How do I respond back?
2. From my experience debating with atheists, they use proof to mean 'seeing'. In other words, to prove that God exist He must show Himself before my eyes, otherwise He doesn't exist.
Here is my response: Just because something appears before your eyes and you saw it does not prove that it exist. You (the atheist) could suffer from a hallucination.
This is his response: Glad you can follow the false logic. Just because you're told God exists from the bible doesn't mean that it does.
Now, I kind of get the idea that he's shifting his presupposition on me. How do I tackle this?
Again, thanks for all the help.
God bless
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