Announcement
Collapse
Apologetics 301 Guidelines
If you think this is the area where you tell everyone you are sorry for eating their lunch out of the fridge, it probably isn't the place for you
This forum is open discussion between atheists and all theists to defend and debate their views on religion or non-religion. Please respect that this is a Christian-owned forum and refrain from gratuitous blasphemy. VERY wide leeway is given in range of expression and allowable behavior as compared to other areas of the forum, and moderation is not overly involved unless necessary. Please keep this in mind. Atheists who wish to interact with theists in a way that does not seek to undermine theistic faith may participate in the World Religions Department. Non-debate question and answers and mild and less confrontational discussions can take place in General Theistics.
Forum Rules: Here
This forum is open discussion between atheists and all theists to defend and debate their views on religion or non-religion. Please respect that this is a Christian-owned forum and refrain from gratuitous blasphemy. VERY wide leeway is given in range of expression and allowable behavior as compared to other areas of the forum, and moderation is not overly involved unless necessary. Please keep this in mind. Atheists who wish to interact with theists in a way that does not seek to undermine theistic faith may participate in the World Religions Department. Non-debate question and answers and mild and less confrontational discussions can take place in General Theistics.
Forum Rules: Here
See more
See less
Extra-terrestrial life
Collapse
X
-
1) There is too little known about Venus and too little known about phosphine to get all excited about this. We've seen similar overreactions about molecular life "evidence" on Mars.
2) Theologically, it means nothing. There is nothing scriptural about extraterrestrial life.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Ronson View Post1) There is too little known about Venus and too little known about phosphine to get all excited about this. We've seen similar overreactions about molecular life "evidence" on Mars.
Conversely, given the sheer vastness on the known universe, the number of technological civilizations should literally number in the millions (in our galaxy alone). It consists of about 100 thousand million stars, most with their own solar systems.
2) Theologically, it means nothing. There is nothing scriptural about extraterrestrial life.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostLighten up rogue06 it was a joke.
[my emphasis] Do you mean "affected"?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
Comment
-
Originally posted by Tassman View PostConversely, given the sheer vastness on the known universe, the number of technological civilizations should literally number in the millions (in our galaxy alone). It consists of about 100 thousand million stars, most with their own solar systems.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
Comment
-
Originally posted by TheWall View PostOut of The Silent Planet.
That was a great trilogy by C.S. Lewis. I think That Hideous Strength was the best novel in the series."For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
Comment
-
Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostHave you read John Gribbin's The Reason Why? He makes a very good case that while life may indeed exist on other planets, advanced intelligent life [as in humans] may be limited to this planet.
“Research released in 2016 revised the number of galaxies in the observable universe from a previous estimate of 200 billion (2×1011) to a suggested two trillion (2×1012) or more and, overall, as many as an estimated 1×1024 stars (more stars than all the grains of sand on planet Earth). Astronomers estimate there are about 100 thousand million stars in the Milky Way galaxy alone”.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...the%20universe.
“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
Comment
-
Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostHave you read John Gribbin's The Reason Why? He makes a very good case that while life may indeed exist on other planets, advanced intelligent life [as in humans] may be limited to this planet.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
Comment
-
Originally posted by Tassman View Post
I haven’t read this book. Nevertheless, I find it difficult to believe that out of the vast number of galaxies and solar systems in the universe that Earth is the only planet to have evolved advanced intelligent life.
“Research released in 2016 revised the number of galaxies in the observable universe from a previous estimate of 200 billion (2×1011) to a suggested two trillion (2×1012) or more and, overall, as many as an estimated 1×1024 stars (more stars than all the grains of sand on planet Earth). Astronomers estimate there are about 100 thousand million stars in the Milky Way galaxy alone”.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...the%20universe.
However, we cannot ignore the possibility that, insofar as intelligent/human life is concerned, Gribbins' argument holds."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
Comment
-
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThere is a definite tendency for folks to conflate life with intelligent life. The former is almost a mathematical certainty whereas the latter is definitely not anywhere close to being one."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
Comment
-
Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
Hence Gribbins' book. Have you read it?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
Comment
-
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostDon't think so but I remember reading one where the author showed, among other things, it would likely be far cheaper for a civilization to actually planet-scape a relatively nearby world so that it would suit their needs than to make repeated trips half way across the galaxy to get stuff. The point being even if there was intelligent life out there somewhere the odds of them coming here for some reason are infinitesimally small."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
Comment
-
Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
Do you have the title? As to our ever contacting another form of intelligent life [if such a species exists] I agree with you. The vastness of space makes it somewhat unlikely.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
Comment
Related Threads
Collapse
Topics | Statistics | Last Post | ||
---|---|---|---|---|
Started by whag, Yesterday, 03:01 PM
|
14 responses
42 views
0 likes
|
Last Post
by tabibito
Today, 03:30 AM
|
||
Started by whag, 03-17-2024, 04:55 PM
|
21 responses
129 views
0 likes
|
Last Post 03-21-2024, 12:15 PM | ||
Started by whag, 03-14-2024, 06:04 PM
|
78 responses
411 views
0 likes
|
Last Post
by tabibito
Yesterday, 10:50 PM
|
||
Started by whag, 03-13-2024, 12:06 PM
|
45 responses
303 views
1 like
|
Last Post 03-17-2024, 07:19 AM |
Comment