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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostSee? That wasn't hard (I'm talking to others who were more reticent than you are here).
Thank you.
As a follow-up to the second question (and it wont bother me if you ignore this):
Let's say I want someone to get the virus - deadly or not - because it'd represent Justice. Would there be anything wrong about this according to the Christian worldview?"For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by Whateverman View Post... is there anything wrong with either of the following? Please explain if your answer if it's something other than "no":
- Not wearing a COVID-19 mask
- Hoping that someone contracts the virus
If not wearing a mask has a realistic possibility of harming our neighbours during our interactions then I’d say that not wearing a mask, in these situations, is wrong.
Hoping someone suffers doesn’t sound right either.
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Originally posted by Whateverman View Post... is there anything wrong with either of the following? Please explain if your answer if it's something other than "no":
- Not wearing a COVID-19 mask
- Hoping that someone contracts the virus
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Thanks for responding, ReformedApologist:
Originally posted by ReformedApologist View Post1. There is nothing wrong with wearing a mask and not wearing a mask. If you have health issues where wearing one is not possible especially then fine.
Let me clarify: the same question can be answered differently, according to different systems of thought. A Christian lawyer can answer questions of right and wrong according to secular law or God's law (which is obviously the core of the Christian worldview). So, when I asked my two questions, I wanted to know what you'd think the bible says, or what God says, or what Christian philosophers say - not what modern medicine /virology says
Originally posted by ReformedApologist View Post2. We should never pray anyone gets the virus.
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Originally posted by Thoughtful Monk View PostFor me, the later would be wrong because I am taking on God's role of judge. Also, if the person did get the virus, I can't make the leap to God caused them to get it.
This isn't your problem, but there are many Christians who'd want bad things to happen to bad people; many people in general, not just Christians. It's very common to play the role of the judge (even if you defer to God on the subject), and wish that certain people see Justice done.
If you're not one of these people, I accept your answer. You'd be a bit rare, though (and I mean that respectfully)
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Originally posted by Watermelon View PostWe try to love our neighbours as best we can. That means we try to genuinely consider the interests of others in our day to day interactions and act accordingly.
If not wearing a mask has a realistic possibility of harming our neighbours during our interactions then I’d say that not wearing a mask, in these situations, is wrong.
Hoping someone suffers doesn’t sound right either.
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostDo Christians really give this that much thought?
A small number of them appeared to be offended by the request for introspection. Luckily, the majority of them were much more reasonable.
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Originally posted by Whateverman View PostWhat a Christian thinks isn't the product of the Christian worldview alone. The thread was asking them to compartmentalize a bit, and answer a question they probably hadn't been asked before.
A small number of them appeared to be offended by the request for introspection. Luckily, the majority of them were much more reasonable."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostWhat the Christians replying to this thread have omitted to recognise is that if they accept only one supreme Creator which, as Isaiah 45.7 makes clear "I am the Lord, and there is no other. I form light and create darkness. I make weal and create woe; I the Lord do all these things" then their Creator is responsible for all the evil in the world."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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Originally posted by KingsGambit View PostBy evil here, I assume you refer to natural evil and not moral evil?"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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