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  • According to the Christian worldview:

    ... is there anything wrong with either of the following? Please explain if your answer if it's something other than "no":

    • Not wearing a COVID-19 mask
    • Hoping that someone contracts the virus
    I can solve the problem of evil without interfering with anyone's free will. So can your God, but he refuses. This is why I'm His moral superior.

  • #2
    Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
    ... is there anything wrong with either of the following? Please explain if your answer if it's something other than "no":

    • Not wearing a COVID-19 mask
    • Hoping that someone contracts the virus
    Really, are you a child?
    Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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    • #3
      Originally posted by seer View Post
      Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
      ... is there anything wrong with either of the following? Please explain if your answer if it's something other than "no":
      • Not wearing a COVID-19 mask
      • Hoping that someone contracts the virus

      Really, are you a child?
      Personal attacks in lieu of an answer to a polite, civil question.

      I wish I could say it was uncommon from Christian conservatives here...
      Last edited by Whateverman; 07-29-2020, 01:01 PM.
      I can solve the problem of evil without interfering with anyone's free will. So can your God, but he refuses. This is why I'm His moral superior.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
        Personal attacks in lieu of an answer to a polite, civil question.

        I wish I could say it was uncommon here...
        How is that question polite or even meant for an honest discussion?
        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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        • #5
          Originally posted by seer View Post
          How is that question polite
          It contained nothing impolite.

          Originally posted by seer View Post
          or even meant for an honest discussion?
          I asked it sincerely.

          ---

          Even if you're right and I'm lying, the questions don't justify a personal attack. If you don't want to answer them, don't post to this thread.
          I can solve the problem of evil without interfering with anyone's free will. So can your God, but he refuses. This is why I'm His moral superior.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
            ... is there anything wrong with either of the following? Please explain if your answer if it's something other than "no":

            [*]Not wearing a COVID-19 mask
            No. God does not require us to wear a mask.

            [*]Hoping that someone contracts the virus
            Depends on why you are hoping for it.
            That's what
            - She

            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
            Stephen R. Donaldson

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
              ... is there anything wrong with either of the following? Please explain if your answer if it's something other than "no":
              [*]Not wearing a COVID-19 mask
              Is there anything wrong with not wearing a mask? I don't know what the Christian worldview is on the subject, but I don't think it's a big deal either way.

              [*]Hoping that someone contracts the virus
              I don't hope anyone catches the virus.

              What prompted these questions?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                Is there anything wrong with not wearing a mask? I don't know what the Christian worldview is on the subject, but I don't think it's a big deal either way.



                I don't hope anyone catches the virus.

                What prompted these questions?
                Some people have argued that masks obscure the image of God, but it's not an argument worth taking seriously.
                "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                • #9
                  Vengeance Invoked upon Adversaries.
                  For the choir director. A Psalm of David.
                  Psa 109
                  O God of my praise,
                  Do not be silent!
                  2
                  For they have opened the [a]wicked and deceitful mouth against me;
                  They have spoken [b]against me with a lying tongue.
                  3
                  They have also surrounded me with words of hatred,
                  And fought against me without cause.
                  4
                  In return for my love they act as my accusers;
                  But I am in prayer.
                  5
                  Thus they have [c]repaid me evil for good
                  And hatred for my love.
                  6
                  Appoint a wicked man over him,
                  And let an [d]accuser stand at his right hand.
                  7
                  When he is judged, let him come forth guilty,
                  And let his prayer become sin.
                  8
                  Let his days be few;
                  Let another take his office.
                  9
                  Let his children be fatherless
                  And his wife a widow.
                  10
                  Let his children wander about and beg;
                  And let them seek sustenance [e]far from their ruined homes.
                  11
                  Let the creditor [f]seize all that he has,
                  And let strangers plunder the product of his labor.
                  12
                  Let there be none to [g]extend lovingkindness to him,
                  Nor any to be gracious to his fatherless children.
                  13
                  Let his posterity be [h]cut off;
                  In a following generation let their name be blotted out.
                  14
                  Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered [i]before the Lord,
                  And do not let the sin of his mother be blotted out.
                  15
                  Let them be before the Lord continually,
                  That He may cut off their memory from the earth;
                  16
                  Because he did not remember to show lovingkindness,
                  But persecuted the afflicted and needy man,
                  And the despondent in heart, to put them to death.
                  17
                  He also loved cursing, so it came to him;
                  And he did not delight in blessing, so it was far from him.
                  18
                  But he clothed himself with cursing as with his garment,
                  And it entered into [j]his body like water
                  And like oil into his bones.
                  19
                  Let it be to him as a garment with which he covers himself,
                  And for a belt with which he constantly girds himself.
                  20
                  [k]Let this be the reward of my accusers from the Lord,
                  And of those who speak evil against my soul.
                  21
                  But You, O [l]God, the Lord, deal kindly with me for Your name’s sake;
                  Because Your lovingkindness is good, deliver me;
                  22
                  For I am afflicted and needy,
                  And [m]my heart is wounded within me.
                  23
                  I am passing like a shadow when it lengthens;
                  I am shaken off like the locust.
                  24
                  My knees [n]are weak from fasting,
                  And my flesh has grown lean, without fatness.
                  25
                  I also have become a reproach to them;
                  When they see me, they wag their head.
                  26
                  Help me, O Lord my God;
                  Save me according to Your lovingkindness.
                  27
                  [o]And let them know that this is Your hand;
                  You, Lord, have done it.
                  28
                  Let them curse, but You bless;
                  When they arise, they shall be ashamed,
                  But Your servant shall be glad.
                  29
                  [p]Let my accusers be clothed with dishonor,
                  And [q]let them cover themselves with their own shame as with a robe.
                  30
                  With my mouth I will give thanks abundantly to the Lord;
                  And in the midst of many I will praise Him.
                  31
                  For He stands at the right hand of the needy,
                  To save him from those who judge his soul.
                  That's what
                  - She

                  Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                  - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                  I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                  Stephen R. Donaldson

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                    No. God does not require us to wear a mask.



                    Depends on why you are hoping for it.
                    See? That wasn't hard (I'm talking to others who were more reticent than you are here).

                    Thank you.

                    As a follow-up to the second question (and it wont bother me if you ignore this):

                    Let's say I want someone to get the virus - deadly or not - because it'd represent Justice. Would there be anything wrong about this according to the Christian worldview?
                    I can solve the problem of evil without interfering with anyone's free will. So can your God, but he refuses. This is why I'm His moral superior.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
                      See? That wasn't hard (I'm talking to others who were more reticent than you are here).

                      Thank you.

                      As a follow-up to the second question (and it wont bother me if you ignore this):

                      Let's say I want someone to get the virus - deadly or not - because it'd represent Justice. Would there be anything wrong about this according to the Christian worldview?
                      According to Psalm 109, no. But, this is an issue of the heart. Justice and vengeance are different things. We are to seek justice, not vengeance.
                      That's what
                      - She

                      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                      Stephen R. Donaldson

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                        Is there anything wrong with not wearing a mask? I don't know what the Christian worldview is on the subject, but I don't think it's a big deal either way.
                        So would you answer be "I don't know" or "probably not"?

                        Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                        I don't hope anyone catches the virus.
                        That's not what I asked, though. You can hope no one contracts COVID-19 based on something other than the Christian worldview, for example; your experiences as a healthcare professional, your platform as a politician, etc. I'm asking specifically about the Christian worldview, and what Christians think it'd say on both questions.

                        Originally posted by Ronson View Post
                        What prompted these questions?
                        Curiosity.
                        I can solve the problem of evil without interfering with anyone's free will. So can your God, but he refuses. This is why I'm His moral superior.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                          According to Psalm 109, no. But, this is an issue of the heart. Justice and vengeance are different things. We are to seek justice, not vengeance.
                          I think the text in red would be fun to discuss, but I'm not pursuing it here. You've answered all of my questions. Thanks.
                          I can solve the problem of evil without interfering with anyone's free will. So can your God, but he refuses. This is why I'm His moral superior.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                            Some people have argued that masks obscure the image of God, but it's not an argument worth taking seriously.
                            OK, but do you have an opinion on either question?

                            I'm looking for answers, and as long as they're sincere, I'm not going to press them too hard.
                            I can solve the problem of evil without interfering with anyone's free will. So can your God, but he refuses. This is why I'm His moral superior.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
                              So would you answer be "I don't know" or "probably not"?

                              That's not what I asked, though. You can hope no one contracts COVID-19 based on something other than the Christian worldview, for example; your experiences as a healthcare professional, your platform as a politician, etc. I'm asking specifically about the Christian worldview, and what Christians think it'd say on both questions.
                              OK. So I'll answer "probably not" and "I don't know" - in that order.

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