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Nero Became Demon Possessed After Paul's Testimony?

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  • #16
    Originally posted by TheWall View Post
    Whether he was demon possessed or not Nero had a particular skill in killing people in cruel and unusual ways. His name can also be 666. Honestly, this guy is one of the scariest historical figures that I know. I still think Czar ivan might be a little more terrifying.
    He's right up there with some other extremist nutjobs I never want to meet.
    "Neighbor, how long has it been since you’ve had a big, thick, steaming bowl of Wolf Brand Chili?”

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      He's right up there with some other extremist nutjobs I never want to meet.
      I think it's unlikely you will be meeting him in the New Jerusalem.
      "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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      • #18
        Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
        The second one being when 2 Timothy was probably written? (Since it appears a lot more pessimistic about his situation on earth).
        I think that's the conventional wisdom.... though I realize I got most of my training from conservative biblical sources.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
          I think it's unlikely you will be meeting him in the New Jerusalem.
          Amen and Amen!
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
            By the way, thanks for the serious responses -- let's PLEASE not let this go to spam or goofy nonsense, OK?
            What?!? And defy the Tweb tradition?

            Well... I guess we can wait a little while before spamming smiley mad.gif

            Seriously though, the early part of his reign was pretty stable, whether that was due to the influence of his mother and advisors is unknown but he did start deteriorating rapidly after their deaths.

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            • #21
              I dunno - when 'kill Mommy' is on your To Do list, you are probably already pretty far gone.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                I dunno - when 'kill Mommy' is on your To Do list, you are probably already pretty far gone.
                But that was about 62 AD - about the same time Paul was in prison in Rome.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  But that was about 62 AD - about the same time Paul was in prison in Rome.
                  OK, maybe I got that wrong - he killed mommy in 59, so....
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    OK, maybe I got that wrong - he killed mommy in 59, so....
                    The fact he had her killed kinda indicates there was a problem before her death. Doesn't eliminate the hypothesis, however. Some people will descend quickly - others slowly. He could have been on slow descent - killing Mommy might well have sped it up.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                      The fact he had her killed kinda indicates there was a problem before her death. Doesn't eliminate the hypothesis, however. Some people will descend quickly - others slowly. He could have been on slow descent - killing Mommy might well have sped it up.
                      Yeah, nobody ever said he was a good boy.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
                        I dunno - when 'kill Mommy' is on your To Do list, you are probably already pretty far gone.
                        Killing off relatives, even close ones, was not exactly something new or unique with Nero. IIRC, it was something his mother did fairly regularly.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          I've read somewhere that he seemed to go off the rails around the time of the death of Seneca, who was one of his chief advisors.
                          IF his unhinging lines up roughly with the death of Seneca, and with a clash with Paul, it could be that Seneca was a moderating influence and Nero blamed Paul, and therefore Christians in some way for his death (we're not dealing with the most stable of people in Nero)
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                          • #28
                            Weren't most of the Caesars insane?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                              Weren't most of the Caesars insane?
                              Nero, yes. Caligula, yes. "Most" is overstating things quite a bit.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                                Nero, yes. Caligula, yes. "Most" is overstating things quite a bit.
                                I read an article some time back which made a pretty good case that Caligula wasn't nearly as crazy as he was portrayed. Debauched and depraved, without a doubt? But insane... maybe not so much.

                                For instance one of the primary examples put forth to illustrate his insanity is that Caligula made his favorite horse, Incitatus, a Roman Senator and even proposed making him a consul.

                                The story is regarded by some to be fictitious political propaganda of the time but even if true it very well could have been Caligula mocking and ridiculing his political adversaries (principally the Senate).

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