Nobody Dies for a Lie

[Cow Poke]

Think about it CP, if we are condemned to begin with, condemned to hell no less...

I don't believe innocent babies go to hell.

[JimL]

I don't believe innocent babies go to hell.

So, you don't believe babies inherited their evil nature from A+E? Why do you say they are innocent? More importantly you are contradicting the passage you just cited. That whoever believeth in him should not perish, but he that believeth not is already condemned!

[Cow Poke]

So, you don't believe babies inherited their evil nature from A+E? Why do you say they are innocent? More importantly you are contradicting the passage you just cited. That whoever believeth in him should not perish, but he that believeth not is already condemned!

Context, Jim. Context.

[Sparko]

Bless your heart.

JimL understands it, he is just doing his dumb act in order to troll and burn straw.

[Sparko]

Of course he is.

Jesus is fully God and (according to the doctrine of the 'hypostatic union') fully Man all at the same time. Clever Jesus!

Dang, you actually got something right.

So now the next time you burn straw like JimL and pretend to not know what we believe I will know you are just trolling.

[Sparko]

That's my point. Do you all have comprehension problems. Assuming there is any truth to the story at all, the point was that the disciples wouldn't have believed in the resurrection, or in other words that Jesus was god, without seeing Jesus physical resurrected body for themselves. Jesus obviously knew that, which is why his resurrected self had to appear before them, to show them. So, you think that Jesus is going to condemn the rest of us for not believing, when his own disciples couldn't believe?

I guess you will just have to find out for yourself.

Don't say we didn't try.

[Sparko]

Think about it CP, if we are condemned to begin with, condemned to hell no less, then the same god is responsible for that condemnation than the one who offers us salvation if only we believe in him. So, we are already condemned to hell, but if in going over the evidence we come to the conclusion that this god exists then we can be saved, but if we honestly come to the conclusion that this god does not exist then we will go to hell where god intended us to go in the first place. Dumb, dumb, dumb!

Jim the same justice system that condemns a criminal will sometimes offer that criminal a pardon. How dumb is that?

[Cow Poke]

JimL understands it, he is just doing his dumb act in order to troll and burn straw.

Which is why I didn't offer any of the many explanations he could easily find on the web if he was sincerely interested.

[JimL]

Which is why I didn't offer any of the many explanations he could easily find on the web if he was sincerely interested.

No, the reason that you didn't offer any explanations is because you don't care that there are no sensible/logical explanations to offer, you and Sparko, like many believers, are in to deep to actually concern yourselves with whether or not what you believe makes sense, or complies with logic.

[Cow Poke]

No, the reason that you didn't offer any explanations....

Jim, please stop this childish nonsense - I know what I was thinking, and you're not a mind reader.

[carpedm9587]

Jim, please stop this childish nonsense - I know what I was thinking, and you're not a mind reader.

How often I have said pretty much the same thing...

[Cow Poke]

How often I have said pretty much the same thing...

Some manage to take it to extraordinary levels of nonsense.

[JimL]

Jim the same justice system that condemns a criminal will sometimes offer that criminal a pardon. How dumb is that?

Sparko, use your head for a change. According to christianity, you are condemned to hell from birth. We wouldn't need a pardon from hell if the so called creator god didn't condemn us to hell from creation. That's how dumb that is to believe. You don't really think much of your god do you?

[Cow Poke]

Sparko, use your head for a change. According to christianity, you are condemned to hell from birth. We wouldn't need a pardon from hell if the so called creator god didn't condemn us to hell from creation. That's how dumb that is to believe. You don't really think much of your god do you?

You really REALLY don't understand Christianity, Jim.

[JimL]

Jim, please stop this childish nonsense - I know what I was thinking, and you're not a mind reader.

If you are debating the issue with me and actually had a logical answer, then you would certainly let it be known, and if you don't then I have little recourse than to assume that you are unable to.