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  • #76
    Originally posted by whag View Post

    In that case, your comment makes even less sense. No one’s come close to suggesting two lateral beams couldn’t support a heavy roof. What’s at issue is “line of sight.”

    You are too dense to follow this discussion. I do not permit you to speak here. You are to remain silent.
    Obviously the roof was made of glass!

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Sparko View Post

      Obviously the roof was made of glass!
      Nah, it’s gotta be transparent aluminum.

      IMG_1249.gif

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
        I am surprised no one has drawn a parallel between the story of Samson and the Greek hero Heracles.
        I'd be more inclined to parallel Heracles and the Nemean lion with Vidar and Fenrir. But whatever.
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        • #79
          Originally posted by whag View Post

          I mean, do we really need to? It seems so obvious that Samson is a myth. That adults are forced to offer apologetics on this story shows the belief burden of fundamentalist Christianity. I could never defend the historicity of these stories for fear of embarrassment.
          I rarely bother to get involved in "apologetics." I believe it happened as recorded. Not my problem if infidels and liberals find it absurd.
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          Beige Federalist.

          Nationalist Christian.

          "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

          Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

          Proud member of the this space left blank community.

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          Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Sparko View Post

            Obviously the roof was made of glass!
            Wrong Judge. Obviously Deborah was the one who broke the glass ceiling.
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            Beige Federalist.

            Nationalist Christian.

            "Everybody is somebody's heretic."

            Social Justice is usually the opposite of actual justice.

            Proud member of the this space left blank community.

            Would-be Grand Vizier of the Padishah Maxi-Super-Ultra-Hyper-Mega-MAGA King Trumpius Rex.

            Justice for Ashli Babbitt!

            Justice for Matthew Perna!

            Arrest Ray Epps and his Fed bosses!

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            • #81
              Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

              I'd be more inclined to parallel Heracles and the Nemean lion with Vidar and Fenrir. But whatever.
              And precisely how do you imagine ancient Israelites would have had contact with Norse mythology?
              "It ain't necessarily so
              The things that you're liable
              To read in the Bible
              It ain't necessarily so
              ."

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              • #82
                Originally posted by NorrinRadd View Post

                I rarely bother to get involved in "apologetics." I believe it happened as recorded. Not my problem if infidels and liberals find it absurd.
                Think of the physics of it: Let's say Samson weighs 300lbs. The gates of Gaza weigh tons. He's running 30 miles uphill to Hebron.

                Use your head. This isn't about me being an infidel and you being a good boy scout. It's about understanding that not everything in the Bible is meant to be taken literally, which is a belief burden. Think of the "yoke" metaphor Jesus uses. Think of Thomas insisting to see Jesus' post-resurrection wounds.

                If Christianity requires you to believe everything in the Bible is a literal record, that does away with its promise of easiness.
                Last edited by whag; 11-18-2023, 10:30 AM.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                  And precisely how do you imagine ancient Israelites would have had contact with Norse mythology?
                  The interwebz.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by whag View Post

                    Think of the physics of it: Let's say Samson weighs 300lbs. The gates of Gaza weigh tons. He's running 30 miles uphill to Hebron.

                    Use your head. This isn't about me being an infidel and you being a good boy scout. It's about understanding that not everything in the Bible is meant to be taken literally, which is a belief burden. Think of the "yoke" metaphor Jesus uses. Think of Thomas insisting to see Jesus' post-resurrection wounds.

                    If Christianity requires you to believe everything in the Bible is a literal record, that does away with its promise of easiness.
                    These biblical literalists never make allowances for those ancient writers using metaphor and/or poetic imagery.
                    "It ain't necessarily so
                    The things that you're liable
                    To read in the Bible
                    It ain't necessarily so
                    ."

                    Sportin' Life
                    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                      These biblical literalists never make allowances for those ancient writers using metaphor and/or poetic imagery.
                      rogue06 and tabibito aren't literalists in the fundamentalist sense, but they seem to believe this story happened pretty much as told. I'm very surprised by this.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by whag View Post

                        rogue06 and tabibito aren't literalists in the fundamentalist sense, but they seem to believe this story happened pretty much as told. I'm very surprised by this.
                        There is also Tweb peer pressure, as well as personal status on Tweb, to consider for one of those individuals.

                        Suggest that this account is a legend and not a literal event as it has come down to us, and risk offending and potentially alienating those of your religious persuasion, including site owners, some of whom may believe this actually was a literal event
                        "It ain't necessarily so
                        The things that you're liable
                        To read in the Bible
                        It ain't necessarily so
                        ."

                        Sportin' Life
                        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by whag View Post

                          rogue06 and tabibito aren't literalists in the fundamentalist sense, but they seem to believe this story happened pretty much as told. I'm very surprised by this.
                          These events are only written up once each. Had there been a second record of even one of the events, I would not have hesitation in stating that they had occurred as recorded.
                          As it stands though, none of them could have happened except by (massive) miraculous intervention - nothing that I can write off as impossible for all that they are physically impossible.
                          It is also true that they could be stories recorded for entertainment value, despite the lack of an explicit moral to the tales - though a moral message can readily be drawn from them; Mark 4:25, among other links, comes to mind.
                          1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
                          .
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                          Scripture before Tradition:
                          but that won't prevent others from
                          taking it upon themselves to deprive you
                          of the right to call yourself Christian.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by whag View Post

                            rogue06 and tabibito aren't literalists in the fundamentalist sense, but they seem to believe this story happened pretty much as told. I'm very surprised by this.
                            I see Genesis 1 as largely being a polemic against the cultures and practices of the people that surrounded the early Israelites and Genesis 2 has numerous allegorical elements given how it describes God in anthropomorphic terms.

                            I'm always still in trouble again

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                              There is also Tweb peer pressure, as well as personal status on Tweb, to consider for one of those individuals.

                              Suggest that this account is a legend and not a literal event as it has come down to us, and risk offending and potentially alienating those of your religious persuasion, including site owners, some of whom may believe this actually was a literal event
                              Peer pressure.


                              You obviously don't know me.

                              And tab is willing to take "unpopular" positions and stand by them.

                              I'm always still in trouble again

                              "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                              "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                              "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                I see Genesis 1 as largely being a polemic against the cultures and practices of the people that surrounded the early Israelites and Genesis 2 has numerous allegorical elements given how it describes God in anthropomorphic terms.
                                LOL. So, Genesis allegory, everything thereafter literal recorded history—including a 300lb man carrying 20,000lbs 30 miles uphill.

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