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Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-28-2017, 11:54 AM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostI am pleased you corrected your vague biased generalization. There is nothing wrong with also writing for the popular audience. His book The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture is not popular literature, and well researched. I have his books in my library as well as R. P. Sanders.
Originally posted by psstein View PostDo yourself a favor and read Ehrman's popular literature with a critical eye. His work on memory was mediocre at best and misrepresented the sources he cited.
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Originally posted by psstein View PostThis is what I said:
I have no idea how you made that into "a vague, biased generalization." I provided a specific example as well, alluding to Jesus Before the Gospels. Ehrman's work on textual criticism has been very good, though his work on forgery is somewhat idiosyncratic. Ehrman's popular work isn't anywhere nearly as good; he often portrays issues as though there's only one correct answer and everyone who disagrees is a fundamentalist.Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-28-2017, 10:34 PM.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Bart himself says he publishes books both for the "masses" and for academic audiences, I don't think that's in any doubt. I think though part of the problem is that lay people don't always understand how to process the information - like "Misquoting Jesus". I n a recent email to me Bart said he believes that Paul does say he had a vision of Jesus citing 1 Cor 15:8, 1 Cor 9:1, and Gal 1-2. 1 Cor 9:1 I think made his point, which also goes to show that there's not a huge scepticism surrounding how much of the text is "original" as many claim. In fact any good scholar would draw on the expertise of textual critics in making any such assessment.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View Postyour "vague, biased generalization." is obvious in your first post without taking into consideration all his books, which to a degree you later improved and clarified with further explanation. I have live in the are for many years, since 1984, except for living in China, 1990 - 2006 and I had the opportunity to met them both and listen to their public lectures.
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Originally posted by InspectorG View PostYou may be interested in the research done regarding the Dimethyltriptamine(DMT) content of the Acacia bush."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by psstein View PostIt's rather obvious you can't read. I said to read his POPULAR literature with a critical eye. I said nothing about his academic literature, which is generally fair to his opponents.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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