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Originally posted by eider View Post10/10 You see? Different. I hope rogue sees this.
Deism is basically just a form of theism
Originally posted by eider View PostHang on............. does that mean that I can take part in all the 'theist only' sections here on Tweb? I need an answer to that.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by eider View Post
Yes..... but I don't believe that, Esther. Like so many other billions of people I don't..........
But, you know what?
That doesn't make it so.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostOf course there is a difference. Just like there is a difference between a lorry and a Volkswagen -- yet they're still both automobiles.
Deism is basically just a form of theism
You aren't an agnostic or atheist are you?
And so I ask you :-does that mean that I can take part in all the 'theist only' sections here on Tweb? I need an answer to that.
.............. and you don't trust your own words enough to give me a straight answer.
You are so much hot air....really!
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Originally posted by eider View Post
It's so easy to see through you rogue........... I am a Deist, and there you are telling me that this is a form of Theism.
And so I ask you :-does that mean that I can take part in all the 'theist only' sections here on Tweb? I need an answer to that.
.............. and you don't trust your own words enough to give me a straight answer.
You are so much hot air....really!- Monotheism.
- Polytheism.
- Pantheism.
- Deism.
- Autotheism.
- Value-judgment theisms.
Basically a deist is a theist who does not think that God or gods take an active role.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostTypes of theism- Monotheism.
- Polytheism.
- Pantheism.
- Deism.
- Autotheism.
- Value-judgment theisms.
Basically a deist is a theist who does not think that God or gods take an active role.
Oh well...... you know best........ so please can I post in 'Theist only' sections here? YES/NO
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Originally posted by eider View Post
And so, although Deism is all about belief in an unaware, or uninvolved, disinterested deity ..the brains of the world have popped it in to the same category as aware, involved interested deities? How logical!
Oh well...... you know best........ so please can I post in 'Theist only' sections here? YES/NO
That also answers your question.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by eider View Post10/10 You see? Different. I hope rogue sees this.
No............... That God IS everything.
But nothing like yours......
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Originally posted by eider View Post
And so, although Deism is all about belief in an unaware, or uninvolved, disinterested deity ..the brains of the world have popped it in to the same category as aware, involved interested deities? How logical!
Oh well...... you know best........ so please can I post in 'Theist only' sections here? YES/NO
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Do you actually believe that there is a God or not? So far it's hard to tell exactly what you believe. Please explain in detail.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
No that is Pantheism, not Deism. Deism is the belief that God created the universe, set it in motion and then sat back and watched without interfering. Pantheism believes that the Universe and God are one and the same.
But I just call myself a Deist. Everything together being God.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Do you actually believe that there is a God or not? So far it's hard to tell exactly what you believe. Please explain in detail.
A God who is completely unaware of you.
Take a magnifying glass and inspect your little finger for the tiniest hair........ fix your eyes upon that hair and realise that you never knew of its existence ... yet it is part of you.
In fact you are not familiar with the majority of cells within yourself. The Deity is in a similar position, I believe.
You and I are part of the whole, but so are the atoms in the table that you sit beside. Everything is part of God and lives, in its own way..
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Originally posted by eider View Post
Everything you see, touch, feel, know about...anywhere, everywhere.....is a part of God.
A God who is completely unaware of you.
Take a magnifying glass and inspect your little finger for the tiniest hair........ fix your eyes upon that hair and realise that you never knew of its existence ... yet it is part of you.
In fact you are not familiar with the majority of cells within yourself. The Deity is in a similar position, I believe.
You and I are part of the whole, but so are the atoms in the table that you sit beside. Everything is part of God and lives, in its own way..
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
Eider seems more exposing a kind of panendeism than the omnipresence of an entity.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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