Did Christianity lose its way?

[shunyadragon]

You claim to have read Hebrews, so how did you miss this:

Scripture Verse: Hebrews 10

For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “Vengeance is mine; I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

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Nice quote for the justification of 'receiving the truth' unfortunately many diverse and conflicting groups of believers start their own church claiming they have 'received the truth' and Christianity has lost it's way. Of course, some claim they are not really a church, but the true 'Way.'

[Sparko]

Nice quote for the justification of 'receiving the truth' unfortunately many diverse and conflicting groups of believers start their own church claiming they have 'received the truth' and Christianity has lost it's way. Of course, some claim they are not really a church, but the true 'Way.'

How the heck did you misread that quote so badly? It was not about "receiving the truth" but about continuing to deliberately sin after being saved.

[rogue06]

How the heck did you misread that quote so badly? It was not about "receiving the truth" but about continuing to deliberately sin after being saved.

It's shuny.

[shunyadragon]

How the heck did you misread that quote so badly? It was not about "receiving the truth" but about continuing to deliberately sin after being saved.

You have misread the citation to justify your agenda in the greater context. Both apply the citation was very very specific when referring to 'receiving the truth.' Considering the many diverse conflicting claims of receiving the truth remains a problem. The concept Biblically in Christianity is that because of the FALL and the original sin we are all condemned to deliberately sin.'

[shunyadragon]

It's shuny.

Phiffffftt airball! is a meaningless nonresponse . . .

You like Sparko have misread the citation to justify your agenda without the greater context and the context of the thread. Both apply the citation was very very specific when referring to 'receiving the truth.' Considering the many diverse conflicting claims of receiving the truth remains a problem. The concept Biblically in Christianity is that because of the FALL and the original sin we are ALL condemned to deliberately sin and do.'

[Sparko]

You have misread the citation to justify your agenda in the greater context. Both apply the citation was very very specific when referring to 'receiving the truth.' Considering the many diverse conflicting claims of receiving the truth remains a problem. The concept Biblically in Christianity is that because of the FALL and the original sin we are all condemned to deliberately sin.'

You sound like an insane chatbot, Shuny.

[tabibito]

You sound like an insane chatbot, Shuny.

It is a side-note, though not the theme. Of course, "receiving" involves somewhat more than merely having it given.

because of the FALL and the original sin we are all condemned to deliberately sin.'

"Original sin" is a concept foreign to scripture," "Condemned to deliberately sin" ... ON OCCASION ... unless the truth has been received, at which time deliberately sinning is no longer unavoidable.

[shunyadragon]

You sound like an insane chatbot, Shuny.

Insults are a failure to respond.

[shunyadragon]

It is a side-note, though not the theme. Of course, "receiving" involves somewhat more than merely having it given.



"Original sin" is a concept foreign to scripture," "Condemned to deliberately sin" ... ON OCCASION ... unless the truth has been received, at which time deliberately sinning is no longer unavoidable.

The Fall and Original Sin are foundation beliefs of Christianity based on the dominant Christian interpretation of scripture for over two millennia..

ON OCCASION????

. . . unless the truth has been received?!?!? How do you 'judge' when truth is received? As far as the objective evidence stands no one has avoided 'sinning.' It is the nature of being human regardless of whether God exists or not.

[tabibito]

The Fall and Original Sin are foundation beliefs of Christianity based on the dominant Christian interpretation of scripture for over two millennia.

Original Sin is not to be found in scripture. That concept developed from the fourth or perhaps third century.

ON OCCASION????

Yes, on occasion. No-one goes throughout life invariably sinning.

unless the truth has been received?!?!? How do you 'judge' when truth is received? As far as the objective evidence stands no one has avoided 'sinning.' It is the nature of being human regardless of whether God exists or not.

The signs are simple enough, if the truth has been received, the person's life will conform with the teachings. If you are saying that no-one avoided sinning, you are correct. If you are saying that no-one can avoid sin, you are incorrect. Scant few have, and it is to be expected that every now and then, a scant few will.


ETA: Part of Jesus' mission was to make it possible for people who receive the truth to be set free from bondage to sin. A person unable to stop sinning has not been set free from bondage to sin. The concept of theosis predates the concept of original sin by at least a couple of centuries.

[eider]

He talked about what Jesus did all the time. How he created the world, how he sacrificed himself for our sins, how he died and was resurrected, how he visited him on the road to Damascus, etc. You just keep ignoring that and repeating your nonsense. Your biggest problem is that you have never bothered to READ Paul's letters and seem to be relying on some third party source for your "facts".

But none of those claims focus upon what he actually did and said........ Mark's gospel includes a whole year in Jesus's life, G-John claims a whole three years in his life, and yet not one amazing incident worth recording b y Paul?

But you're right.......... I don't believe that Jesus created the universe, nor was resurrected, nor spoke with Saul on the road.
Paul's letters are crucial for an HC student, not an HJ student.

[eider]

Insults are a failure to respond.

When folks throw insults, this is a sure sign that they have nothing of value to offer.

[rogue06]

When folks throw insults, this is a sure sign that they have nothing of value to offer.

Or the person they are trying to communicate with is an obstinate noodlehead.

[tabibito]

Or the person they are trying to communicate with is an obstinate noodlehead.

It's really strange that an author who wasn't writing a biography should somehow omit biographical information in his writing.

[shunyadragon]

Or the person they are trying to communicate with is an obstinate noodlehead.

Sounds like your methods of responding to posts with insult, cartoons and not substance concerning the issues of the thread, which mirrors the fundamentalist Christian opposition to evolution/