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  • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

    I am not the one offering asinine comments on Caesar's campaigns in Gaul and the forces he had at his disposal.
    That is disputed by several of your posts in this thread.

    I'm always still in trouble again

    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
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    • Originally posted by Sparko View Post

      No you are just making asinine comments in general (pun intended)
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      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
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        • Bad puns deserve recognition.

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            Because the governor-designate there suddenly died and he was assigned the governorship there as well as Cisalpine Gaul.
            It would appear that you have been Googling.

            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            Are you saying that those legions never joined him?
            Quite possibly, but he certainly raised troops locally.

            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            Why Caesar did this really doesn't matter.
            A statement that illustrates your profound ignorance of the contemporary situation and is somewhat at odds with your claim to have read Caesar's commentaries.

            Unless of course The Gallic War is yet another of those numerous texts that you allege to have read but from which you cannot recall a single fact.
            "It ain't necessarily so
            The things that you're liable
            To read in the Bible
            It ain't necessarily so
            ."

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            • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
              Your argument is with these folks among others


              The undisputed fact remains that it is translated that way.
              That Roman power and influence was consolidated throughout Gaul is a somewhat different matter from your schoolboy contention that Caesar invaded and conquered all of Gaul. That notion remains arrant nonsense.
              "It ain't necessarily so
              The things that you're liable
              To read in the Bible
              It ain't necessarily so
              ."

              Sportin' Life
              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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              • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                It would appear that you have been Googling.
                You used Google to check that, didn't you?
                Quite possibly, but he certainly raised troops locally.
                A statement which rather vitiates your assertion that he couldn't have been invading because he only brought one legion with him.
                A statement that illustrates your profound ignorance of the contemporary situation and is somewhat at odds with your claim to have read Caesar's commentaries.
                Well, no. It's an observation that is is immaterial to the argument at hand.
                Unless of course The Gallic War is yet another of those numerous texts that you allege to have read but from which you cannot recall a single fact.
                Ooh, argument by insult. How very persuasive!
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                • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                  That Roman power and influence was consolidated throughout Gaul is a somewhat different matter from your schoolboy contention that Caesar invaded and conquered all of Gaul. That notion remains arrant nonsense.
                  Show me where rogue06 asserted that "Caesar invaded and conquered all of Gaul."


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                  • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                    It would appear that you have been Googling.
                    Projecting again?

                    Why do you automatically assume that something that you didn't know and had to look up (or else you wouldn't have asked the question and presented it as some major mystery in the first place) is something nobody else could have else known?

                    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                    Quite possibly, but he certainly raised troops locally.
                    Which wouldn't be necessary unless he was planning something -- like an invasion.

                    Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
                    A statement that illustrates your profound ignorance of the contemporary situation and is somewhat at odds with your claim to have read Caesar's commentaries.

                    Unless of course The Gallic War is yet another of those numerous texts that you allege to have read but from which you cannot recall a single fact.
                    Unlike you I don't see what Caesar wrote as unvarnished fact -- some sort of eternal truth carved in stone.

                    It was propaganda. He wrote it to glorify himself and to rationalize his actions. Often he had to stretch the truth to do so -- as is common in propaganda.


                    I'm always still in trouble again

                    "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                    "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                    "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                    • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post

                      Which wouldn't be necessary unless he was planning something -- like an invasion.
                      It also kind of makes the use extra legions unnecessary and overkill. Why bother with all the trouble involved with bringing troops when you can call on home-grown troops?
                      1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
                      .
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                      Scripture before Tradition:
                      but that won't prevent others from
                      taking it upon themselves to deprive you
                      of the right to call yourself Christian.

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                      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        Projecting again?

                        Why do you automatically assume that something that you didn't know and had to look up (or else you wouldn't have asked the question and presented it as some major mystery in the first place) is something nobody else could have else known?
                        Because you never give details until pressed.

                        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                        Unlike you I don't see what Caesar wrote as unvarnished fact -- some sort of eternal truth carved in stone.
                        I noted some time ago that these commentaries had a political edge.

                        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                        The text of The Gallic Wars as we now have it was not all written at one time. It comprises a series of dispatches regularly sent by Caesar back to Rome to be read [possibly in the senate] and certainly by his supporters to demonstrate and enhance his military prowess and political status. Bear in mind that military conquest and the booty that came with it was particularly important for Roman commanders and helped keep them [as it were] in the spotlight back in Rome.



                        "It ain't necessarily so
                        The things that you're liable
                        To read in the Bible
                        It ain't necessarily so
                        ."

                        Sportin' Life
                        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                        • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                          Well, no. It's an observation that is is immaterial to the argument at hand.
                          For rogue06 to write this with regard to Caesar's campaigns in Gaul:

                          Originally posted by rogue06 View Post

                          Why Caesar did this really doesn't matter.


                          Serves to illustrate his profound ignorance on the contemporary situation.

                          Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                          Ooh, argument by insult. How very persuasive!
                          He does seem to have a tendency to claim he has read texts and then make posts that indicate he has not read such texts. Either that or, what appear to be increasingly problematic issues with his memory, leave him unable to recall to mind a single word of what he has apparently read.
                          "It ain't necessarily so
                          The things that you're liable
                          To read in the Bible
                          It ain't necessarily so
                          ."

                          Sportin' Life
                          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                          • Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                            Show me where rogue06 asserted that "Caesar invaded and conquered all of Gaul."

                            Here is a selection of his comments taken from various threads where the topic was raised.

                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            , like with Caesar's Gallic Campaign (where you claimed that Caesar never invaded Gaul but won't explain how he conquered it)


                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            Your comments provided irrelevant background regarding Caesar's career and certainly didn't explain how Caesar managed to conquer Gaul without ever invading it [..] .and therefore that somehow means that Caesar didn't invade Gaul.


                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            You are the one who kept saying he never conquered it leading me to ask if they just joined the Roman Empire on their own after receiving a threatening letter.


                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            What we have is archaeological evidence of Rome conquering Gaul.


                            "It ain't necessarily so
                            The things that you're liable
                            To read in the Bible
                            It ain't necessarily so
                            ."

                            Sportin' Life
                            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                            • Originally posted by tabibito View Post

                              It also kind of makes the use extra legions unnecessary and overkill. Why bother with all the trouble involved with bringing troops when you can call on home-grown troops?


                              I have just noticed this. You do tend to make something of an ass of yourself when you offer your opinion on a topic of which you know nothing.
                              "It ain't necessarily so
                              The things that you're liable
                              To read in the Bible
                              It ain't necessarily so
                              ."

                              Sportin' Life
                              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                              • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post



                                I have just noticed this. You do tend to make something of an ass of yourself when you offer your opinion on a topic of which you know nothing.
                                I would know much less if I were to consider your pontification valid. The accuracy of what you post is inversely proportional to the insults in its content.
                                Last edited by tabibito; 02-26-2023, 12:14 PM.
                                1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
                                .
                                ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛
                                Scripture before Tradition:
                                but that won't prevent others from
                                taking it upon themselves to deprive you
                                of the right to call yourself Christian.

                                ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛

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