How much of Christianity came from Jesus, and how much came from other sources?

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Scholarly consensus would have us believe that Luke said Jesus was crucified on the 15th Nisan, despite Luke's all but explicit declaration that it was the 14th, and Mark's record is consistent with Luke's.

You carry on riding your favourite hobbyhorse.

Scholarly consensus has it that the census of 6CE was conducted by Quirinius while he was governing/commanding in Syria.

And we know that from Josephus. However, the province of Syria in 6 CE was larger than what is now defined as "Syria".

History shows that in 6CE, Quirinius was governor of Judaea.

He was not the "governor of Judaea". Where do you get this nonsense?

Quirinius was a Imperial legate [an ex consular]. Do you not understand that Judaea was incorporated into the much larger province of Syria over which Quirinius had over-riding authority? However, the province of Judaea was given its own governor; and in 6 CE that first governor was Coponius - a man of equestrian rank - exactly from the same social class as the fifth governor Pontius Pilate.

Does the phrase chain of command mean anything to you?

[rogue06]

What do you think it was? A first century version of CSI Miami?

Exactly the sort of response I expect from you when you have nothing to add.

[rogue06]

These are not biographies in the modern understanding of that word.

Which probably explains why they are likened to Greco-Roman biographies

And you know what? Written "History" back then was also nothing like our modern understanding of the concept.

[tabibito]

You carry on riding your favourite hobbyhorse.

If anyone holds to the majority consensus opinion after the facts have been pointed out, the refusal can only be regarded as wilful. That person's assessments thereafter have to be doubly checked before they can accepted.

And we know that from Josephus. However, the province of Syria in 6 CE was larger than what is now defined as "Syria".

He was not the "governor of Judaea". Where do you get this nonsense?


Quirinius was a Imperial legate [an ex consular]. Do you not understand that Judaea was incorporated into the much larger province of Syria over which Quirinius had over-riding authority? However, the province of Judaea was given its own governor; and in 6 CE that first governor was Coponius - a man of equestrian rank - exactly from the same social class as the fifth governor Pontius Pilate.

Doubly checked. You are correct. It is passing strange that you said nothing about it when I commented on the matter some time ago.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Doubly checked. You are correct. It is passing strange that you said nothing about it when I commented on the matter some time ago.

Short term memory issues seem to be contagious:

From here https://theologyweb.com/campus/forum...53#post1427265

First comment from me:

And the governor of the region was the Legate of Syria. Judaea was a province that was under the jurisdiction of that much larger province. All this has been explained to you on several occasions.

And then consecutive posts 789 & 790

Josephus’ account refers to the time that Quirinius was governor of Syria.

On whose say-so? Judaea had its own governor. Why did he not conduct the census?

And Judaea was a province under the jurisdiction of the governor of Syria at that time. Coponius was a Prefect.

He was involved but the senior commanding office was in over-all charge of that event. Bear in mind an uprising had recently been suppressed by Varus - a previous Legate.

[tabibito]

Short term memory issues seem to be contagious:

From here https://theologyweb.com/campus/forum...53#post1427265

First comment from me:




And then consecutive posts 789 & 790

Ah yes, you did mention it. I wasn't paying enough attention.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Ah yes, you did mention it. I wasn't paying enough attention.

Given my remark that:

All this has been explained to you on several occasions.

I wonder you bother in exchanges. Clearly whatever you read goes straight through your head with little in-between to stop it. It seems that rogue06 is not alone in his inability to retain information that he has read.

[tabibito]

Given my remark that:

All this has been explained to you on several occasions.

I wonder you bother in exchanges. Clearly whatever you read goes straight through your head with little in-between to stop it. It seems that rogue06 is not alone in his inability to retain information that he has read.

If the comment had been made by people less interested in trying to build themselves up by showing open contempt for any opinion other than their own, I might have paid more attention.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

If the comment had been made by people less interested in trying to build themselves up by showing open contempt for any opinion other than their own, I might have paid more attention.

Oh dear we are feeling sensitive aren't we?

However, if you consider my replies in that light why on earth do you persist in responding to my posts?

[tabibito]

Oh dear we are feeling sensitive aren't we?

However, if you consider my replies in that light why on earth do you persist in responding to my posts?

Does the term "sounding board" mean anything to you?

[rogue06]

If the comment had been made by people less interested in trying to build themselves up by showing open contempt for any opinion other than their own, I might have paid more attention.

Generally, the biggest problem is her propensity to pad her posts with irrelevancies in order to feed her need to demonstrate that "I knows stuff," that can lead the eyes to glaze over and miss something that was actually pertinent.

[tabibito]

Generally, the biggest problem is her propensity to pad her posts with irrelevancies in order to feed her need to demonstrate that "I knows stuff," that can lead the eyes to glaze over and miss something that was actually pertinent.

Posts peppered with irrelevancies, insults, self aggrandisement: the audience missing stuff is a guaranteed outcome. Even so, the audience can't blame her for its own inattention.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Generally, the biggest problem is her propensity to pad her posts with irrelevancies in order to feed her need to demonstrate that "I knows stuff," that can lead the eyes to glaze over and miss something that was actually pertinent.

You of course reduce complex subjects down to over generalisations and sweeping unqualified, and/or, un-contextualised statements.

[Hypatia_Alexandria]

Does the term "sounding board" mean anything to you?

More than "chain of command" apparently meant to you!

[tabibito]

More than "chain of command" apparently meant to you!

The chain of command supplies the answer to a puzzle - so that's the second time that you have assisted in resolving a difficulty.