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  • Originally posted by tabibito View Post

    I never said, claimed, or implied that it was. The author(s) of that gospel penned a translation of what they remembered, according to their testimony.
    That is your personal opinion. Nothing more.
    "It ain't necessarily so
    The things that you're liable
    To read in the Bible
    It ain't necessarily so
    ."

    Sportin' Life
    Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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    • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

      That is your personal opinion. Nothing more.
      No - according to the author(s), they drew on personal memories to produce the gospel. It is my opinion that their testimony is valid.
      1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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      Scripture before Tradition:
      but that won't prevent others from
      taking it upon themselves to deprive you
      of the right to call yourself Christian.

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      • Originally posted by tabibito View Post

        But the argument that there are contradictions in the Bible often assumes that the Bible can't be addressing complex issues.



        It wasn't common practice to cater to the demands of academic rigour that did not exist until centuries later.



        No apostle's message relies on the testimony of others. An apostle's authority and message are validated by his own works. The other apostles did not call to Paul's message for validation of their own.



        There didn't need to be a king and his court, the apostles sufficed. Congregation leaders who failed to maintain order were given sharp reminders of their responsibilities.



        Correct - they only had jurisdiction to the extent that they could remove disorderly people from fellowship with the congregation.
        Is there a point to any of the above?
        "It ain't necessarily so
        The things that you're liable
        To read in the Bible
        It ain't necessarily so
        ."

        Sportin' Life
        Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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        • Originally posted by tabibito View Post

          No - according to the author(s), they drew on personal memories to produce the gospel. It is my opinion that their testimony is valid.
          And that remains your opinion. Nothing more.
          "It ain't necessarily so
          The things that you're liable
          To read in the Bible
          It ain't necessarily so
          ."

          Sportin' Life
          Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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          • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

            And that remains your opinion. Nothing more.
            It is my opinion that your opinion of my opinion is of no consequence.

            Is there a point to any of the above?
            It has as much point as the post I was responding to. In fact, its entire point rests on the content of the points of the post I was responding to.
            Last edited by tabibito; 01-30-2023, 05:38 AM.
            1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
            .
            ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛
            Scripture before Tradition:
            but that won't prevent others from
            taking it upon themselves to deprive you
            of the right to call yourself Christian.

            ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛

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            • Originally posted by tabibito View Post

              It is my opinion that your opinion of my opinion is of no consequence.


              Then why keep posting comments on this?
              "It ain't necessarily so
              The things that you're liable
              To read in the Bible
              It ain't necessarily so
              ."

              Sportin' Life
              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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              • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                ἐγὼ εἰμί is not the tetragrammaton.
                Did some Googling, did ya?
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                • Originally posted by tabibito View Post

                  No - according to the author(s), they drew on personal memories to produce the gospel. It is my opinion that their testimony is valid.
                  Putting G-John aside (he fibbed about stuff like that), can you show verses that Luke or Matthew witnessed anything? Or will you agree that personal memories did not include any memories of Jesus himself?

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                  • Originally posted by tabibito View Post

                    A tabernacle was a tent or a cloth hut. And back in the first century, tabernacles would be built and lived in on an annual basis - for a term of eight days. They were often built on the rooves of the houses belonging to the people who built the tabernacles. In some places, it is a continuing practice.
                    .
                    Oh yes........... The Jews had been tent dwellers. Many still were.

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                    • Originally posted by eider View Post

                      Putting G-John aside (he fibbed about stuff like that), can you show verses that Luke or Matthew witnessed anything? Or will you agree that personal memories did not include any memories of Jesus himself?
                      The comment addressed the Gospel of John alone; your opinion about John's veracity doesn't seem to be based on any evidence. As for Luke, he recorded what was passed on by the first disciples - I'm satisfied that the time frame allows for the direct testimony of eye-witnesses. I'm undecided about Matthew.
                      1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
                      .
                      ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛
                      Scripture before Tradition:
                      but that won't prevent others from
                      taking it upon themselves to deprive you
                      of the right to call yourself Christian.

                      ⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛⊛

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                      • Originally posted by tabibito View Post

                        The comment addressed the Gospel of John alone; your opinion about John's veracity doesn't seem to be based on any evidence. .
                        Yes, I don't b elieve in such claims from John, don't even think that the disciple John wrote that.
                        There are many 'pieces' of evidence to support such a belief..

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                        • Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                          That is your personal opinion. Nothing more.
                          The 'they' became a single gospel writer when I asked, and that was G-John which I don't think was written by the disciple at all.

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                          • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post

                            Did some Googling, did ya?
                            I do love a good google. oh.... ah.....

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                            • Originally posted by eider View Post

                              Oh yes........... The Jews had been tent dwellers. Many still were.
                              Only those living nomadic existences. Those in cities, towns and villages ... not so much.

                              I'm always still in trouble again

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                              • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                                Only those living nomadic existences. Those in cities, towns and villages ... not so much.
                                Obviously, Jerusalem was actually just a tent city!!! Jews had no houses, only tents!

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