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Question About Numbers 15:32–36
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
A somewhat defensive reply which reads like the proverbial "cop-out" and from someone who will often disappear from a thread when they are pressed.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Your fanciful flights of imagination beggar belief.
I'm not going to be drawn down your flowery garden path
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYou write arrogant and uninformed comments about things of which you know very little.
I'm not going to be drawn down your flowery garden path
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostGreek was the language of the eastern empire not the "Roman empire".
Give me a valid reason [with some attested contemporary evidence] as to why a peasant fisherman in Galilee would be interested in learning the Greek language and Greek philosophical ideas.
Again some attested historical contemporary evidence is required by you in order to dismiss as "nonsense" the accepted view that Paul is our earliest source of Christian writing.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Take each of those statements and provide supporting evidence for each of them and then compose it all into a coherent piece of prose
Since I gotta go for a bit my next reply will be
If someone makes an idiotic comment they must expect to be picked up on it. That is something you are not averse to doing to other people when you consider their remarks stupid, idiotic etc.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
The self proclaimed historian claims that eastern and western Roman empires existed prior to 280CE? On what grounds?
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
I have given my reasons in the past and feel no need to repeat them.
Since I gotta go for a bit my next reply will be
If someone makes an idiotic comment they must expect to be picked up on it. That is something you are not averse to doing to other people when you consider their remarks stupid, idiotic etc.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
You surely know of the observation that attacking one's interlocutor is often a sign that the one making those remarks has lost the argument.
And now I really do need to go.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostShe has been confusing her timelines quite a bit lately.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostRegardless of the date written, it is not discussing the region after 70A.D. but before.Originally posted by rogue06 View PostThe "Italian Regiment" was also known as the Cohors II Italica Civium Romanorum, and was a Roman cohort from Italia formed from Roman citizens.
Given your affectations concerning all things Roman and Roman military One might assume that you would have known that a cohort in this specific instance was not a legion or even a part of a legion. This was an auxiliary cohort. Legionary cohorts were in a totally different category.
Given the Roman practise of recruiting locally for its auxiliary forces regardless of where the unit had been originally raised, this individual was most likely from somewhere within the region.
If indeed Cornelius [assuming he existed] was a serving centurion he have would found his new religious affiliations somewhat at variance with his official duties in the Roman army and its religious ceremonies, for example, the cult of the standards. It should also be noted that Jews, because of their religious practises and beliefs, were exempted from serving in the Roman military. If this character has any historical basis it would seem more probable that he was retired from the Roman army and therefore his somewhat eccentric religious practises would have occasioned no controversy among his former military comrades.
With regard to your question about permanently stationed legions. Roman legions were garrisoned in legionary fortresses. At this period there were none in Judaea or Galilee. Varus had suppressed the uprising following the death of Herod the Great and had used his legionary troops to do so. However, this was a temporary measure until order had been restored and the political affairs of the region settled.
However, after 70 CE there was a legion garrisoned in Judaea and its commander was also the governor of the new praetorian province of Judaea.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostYou repeatedly mocked the idea that Jesus' Galilean disciples could ever learn any Greek. They were merely dumb fisherman after all.
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostNow you have Greek being spoken everywhere including in Galilee.
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostGood Lord, another instance of you feeling a need to show you "knows stuff" even if little of it is relevant.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by tabibito View Post
The self proclaimed historian claims that eastern and western Roman empires existed prior to 280CE? On what grounds?
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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