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  • #91
    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
    Define "tiresome"
    A somewhat defensive reply which reads like the proverbial "cop-out" and from someone who will often disappear from a thread when they are pressed.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Sparko View Post

      A somewhat defensive reply which reads like the proverbial "cop-out" and from someone who will often disappear from a thread when they are pressed.
      Dangblast it! I was just about to accuse you with running off for waiting more than a minute to respond.

      I'm always still in trouble again

      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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      • #93
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        Dangblast it! I was just about to accuse you with running off for waiting more than a minute to respond.
        Your fanciful flights of imagination beggar belief.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Sparko View Post

          Your fanciful flights of imagination beggar belief.
          You write arrogant and uninformed comments about things of which you know very little.

          I'm not going to be drawn down your flowery garden path

          I'm always still in trouble again

          "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
          "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
          "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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          • #95
            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
            You write arrogant and uninformed comments about things of which you know very little.

            I'm not going to be drawn down your flowery garden path
            Take each of those statements and provide supporting evidence for each of them and then compose it all into a coherent piece of prose

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            • #96
              Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
              Greek was the language of the eastern empire not the "Roman empire".
              The self proclaimed historian claims that eastern and western Roman empires existed prior to 280CE? On what grounds?

              Give me a valid reason [with some attested contemporary evidence] as to why a peasant fisherman in Galilee would be interested in learning the Greek language and Greek philosophical ideas.
              Why bother? There is no logical reason to assume that a person who mingled in Hellenistic societies would have eschewed learning and using the common tongue.

              Again some attested historical contemporary evidence is required by you in order to dismiss as "nonsense" the accepted view that Paul is our earliest source of Christian writing.
              Already provided, only to have you claim it wasn't. Nothing else is expected, and repeating or adding to what has already been provided can only be expected to meet with further claims by you that nothing has been provided.
              1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω
              Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
              .
              "when the church no longer teaches its people why they believe what they believe, the world will often step in and fill in the gaps." Ryan Danker

              "The synoptic gospels claim that Jesus was crucified on the 15th day of Nisan and buried on the 14th day of Nisan:" Majority Consensus

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                Take each of those statements and provide supporting evidence for each of them and then compose it all into a coherent piece of prose
                I have given my reasons in the past and feel no need to repeat them.



                Since I gotta go for a bit my next reply will be

                If someone makes an idiotic comment they must expect to be picked up on it. That is something you are not averse to doing to other people when you consider their remarks stupid, idiotic etc.



                I'm always still in trouble again

                "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by tabibito View Post

                  The self proclaimed historian claims that eastern and western Roman empires existed prior to 280CE? On what grounds?
                  She has been confusing her timelines quite a bit lately.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

                  "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                  "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                  "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post

                    I have given my reasons in the past and feel no need to repeat them.



                    Since I gotta go for a bit my next reply will be

                    If someone makes an idiotic comment they must expect to be picked up on it. That is something you are not averse to doing to other people when you consider their remarks stupid, idiotic etc.

                    You surely know of the observation that attacking one's interlocutor is often a sign that the one making those remarks has lost the argument.

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                    • Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                      You surely know of the observation that attacking one's interlocutor is often a sign that the one making those remarks has lost the argument.
                      This is hardly a scholarly exchange! One might opine the cuckoos are calling late this year!




                      And now I really do need to go.

                      I'm always still in trouble again

                      "You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
                      "Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
                      "Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman

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                      • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post

                        This is hardly a scholarly exchange! One might opine the cuckoos are calling late this year!




                        And now I really do need to go.
                        What a pseudonymous poseur on an internet forum thinks about me will not disturb my sleep.

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                        • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                          She has been confusing her timelines quite a bit lately.
                          Even a person as unfamiliar with history as I am can differentiate glaringly obvious details like that one. Simple confusion seems unlikely - maybe it is in one of the many ancient manuscripts that she alone (seemingly) has access to.
                          1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω
                          Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
                          .
                          "when the church no longer teaches its people why they believe what they believe, the world will often step in and fill in the gaps." Ryan Danker

                          "The synoptic gospels claim that Jesus was crucified on the 15th day of Nisan and buried on the 14th day of Nisan:" Majority Consensus

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                          • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            Regardless of the date written, it is not discussing the region after 70A.D. but before.
                            Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                            The "Italian Regiment" was also known as the Cohors II Italica Civium Romanorum, and was a Roman cohort from Italia formed from Roman citizens.


                            Given your affectations concerning all things Roman and Roman military One might assume that you would have known that a cohort in this specific instance was not a legion or even a part of a legion. This was an auxiliary cohort. Legionary cohorts were in a totally different category.

                            Given the Roman practise of recruiting locally for its auxiliary forces regardless of where the unit had been originally raised, this individual was most likely from somewhere within the region.

                            If indeed Cornelius [assuming he existed] was a serving centurion he have would found his new religious affiliations somewhat at variance with his official duties in the Roman army and its religious ceremonies, for example, the cult of the standards. It should also be noted that Jews, because of their religious practises and beliefs, were exempted from serving in the Roman military. If this character has any historical basis it would seem more probable that he was retired from the Roman army and therefore his somewhat eccentric religious practises would have occasioned no controversy among his former military comrades.

                            With regard to your question about permanently stationed legions. Roman legions were garrisoned in legionary fortresses. At this period there were none in Judaea or Galilee. Varus had suppressed the uprising following the death of Herod the Great and had used his legionary troops to do so. However, this was a temporary measure until order had been restored and the political affairs of the region settled.

                            However, after 70 CE there was a legion garrisoned in Judaea and its commander was also the governor of the new praetorian province of Judaea.

                            "It ain't necessarily so
                            The things that you're liable
                            To read in the Bible
                            It ain't necessarily so
                            ."

                            Sportin' Life
                            Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                            • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              You repeatedly mocked the idea that Jesus' Galilean disciples could ever learn any Greek. They were merely dumb fisherman after all.
                              I have never written any such thing. However, we have to look at this in its historical context. Why would devout Galilean Jews have the slightest interest in the Greek language and Greek philosophical ideas?

                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              Now you have Greek being spoken everywhere including in Galilee.
                              Does the name Alexander of Macedon mean anything to you? How about the Seleucid Empire? Or the names of some of the Hasmonean dynasty [Antigonus, Aristobulus [I & II] and Alexander? Or the Ptolemaic dynasty and Cleopatra VII Philopator?

                              Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                              Good Lord, another instance of you feeling a need to show you "knows stuff" even if little of it is relevant.
                              I was merely providing some historical context for my lamentably ignorant interlocutor.

                              "It ain't necessarily so
                              The things that you're liable
                              To read in the Bible
                              It ain't necessarily so
                              ."

                              Sportin' Life
                              Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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                              • Originally posted by tabibito View Post

                                The self proclaimed historian claims that eastern and western Roman empires existed prior to 280CE? On what grounds?
                                I shall ask you the same question I put to another lamentably ignorant individual. Does the name Alexander of Macedon mean anything to you?

                                "It ain't necessarily so
                                The things that you're liable
                                To read in the Bible
                                It ain't necessarily so
                                ."

                                Sportin' Life
                                Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin

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