Plantinga's argument for Design.

[shunyadragon]

I have read some of Plantinga's works, not all. Stop stalling and give the source.

The Noetic Effects of Sin: A Historical and Contemporary Exploration of how ... By Stephen K. Moroney, pp 77 - 79 - Reformed Epistemology and John Calvin on the Noetic Effects of Sin.

This goes into considerable detail concerning how Plantinga and Wolterstorff views Reformed Epistomology.

[OingoBoingo]

I have cited Plantinga, and I will cite him more. The reviewers I WILL CITE are very qualified.

Pro-tip: Cite qualified sources on all sides of an argument. DO NOT rely on philosophers to understand evolution unless they provide appropriate academic sources.

LOL. You really suck at this, you know that?

Pro-tip: When you have no legs to stand on, on a subject that's clearly over your head, it looks ridiculous when you're giving others pro-tips. Especially one's that you're not even abiding by.

[Carrikature]

I have cited Plantinga, and I will cite him more. The reviewers I WILL CITE are very qualified.

Pro-tip: Cite qualified sources on all sides of an argument. DO NOT rely on philosophers to understand evolution unless they provide appropriate academic sources.

You've cited bits and pieces at best. You have this habit of saying you're going to cite something without ever actually doing it. Stop saying you're going to do it and just do it...

Plantinga is making an extensive argument against Naturalism based on what he describes Evolution can and cannot cause concerning belief and human behavior. This is Geology and Biology, Specialty Paleontology and evolution. Plantinga is out of his field and clueless.

This is false. He is not claiming what evolution can or cannot cause. Rather, he is claiming that there are alternative explanations for survival benefit which do not guarantee true beliefs.

[shunyadragon]

What does geology have to do with Plantinga?

Plantinga is making an extensive argument against Naturalism based on what he describes Evolution can and cannot cause concerning belief and human behavior. This is Geology and Biology, Specialty Paleontology and evolution. Plantinga is out of his field and clueless.

[OingoBoingo]

According to Plantinga, 'properly basic beliefs' justify only theism not different people holding different beliefs.

No, he doesn't say this.

[Paprika]

Have you read Plantinga? I will provide a source, but first are you aware of his explanation of Reformed Epistemology and the explanation why some people do not believe when they should believe.

I have read some of Plantinga's works, not all. Stop stalling and give the source.

[OingoBoingo]

I have read his works. The reviewers I will cite are well qualified, and better qualified then I, to express their objections. My objections are specific to my knowledge of geology and evolution. Plantinga is clueless about the science of evolution.

What does geology have to do with Plantinga?

[shunyadragon]

Pro-tip: Cite the author not the reviewer.

I have cited Plantinga, and I will cite him more. The reviewers I WILL CITE are very qualified.

Pro-tip: Cite qualified sources on all sides of an argument. DO NOT rely on philosophers to understand evolution unless they provide appropriate academic sources.

[shunyadragon]

Source?

Have you read Plantinga? I will provide a source, but first are you aware of his explanation of Reformed Epistemology and the explanation why some people do not believe when they should believe.

[Carrikature]

I have read his works. The reviewers I will cite are well qualified, and better qualified then I, to express their objections. My objections are specific to my knowledge of geology and evolution. Plantinga is clueless about the science of evolution.

Pro-tip: Cite the author not the reviewer.

[Carrikature]

According to Plantinga, 'properly basic beliefs' justify only theism not different people holding different beliefs. Actually from what I read in the past he considers 'sin' to be the cause of 'some' people not holding 'properly basic beliefs.'

You should back this up with something. As best I can tell, his concept of PBB only seeks to justify theism as one such belief not the only such. Of course, one wouldn't argue that some people don't hold properly basic beliefs. Rather, one would argue that some of those beliefs are wrong due to sin.

In your view is his 'properly basic beliefs,' justifying different people holding different beliefs?

It would have to.

[shunyadragon]

You could actually try reading his works and not just rely on selected quotes by reviewers.

I have read his works. The reviewers I will cite are well qualified, and better qualified then I, to express their objections. My objections are specific to my knowledge of geology and evolution. Plantinga is clueless about the science of evolution.

[Paprika]

Actually from what I read in the past he considers 'sin' to be the cause of 'some' people not holding 'properly basic beliefs.'

Source?

[shunyadragon]

Source?

Plantinga's whole argument from beginning to end. His purpose is to justify theism as the 'properly basic belief.'

[Paprika]

Serious question here; How does Plantinga objectively determine that the probability is 'Inscrutable?']

You could actually try reading his works and not just rely on selected quotes by reviewers.