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"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Again, you are misunderstanding what "brain dead" means.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Do you have any idea how it is diagnosed?- a person must be unconscious and fail to respond to outside stimulation
- a person's heartbeat and breathing can only be maintained using a ventilator
- there must be clear evidence that serious brain damage has occurred and it cannot be cured.
“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post
For a diagnosis of brain death:- a person must be unconscious and fail to respond to outside stimulation
- a person's heartbeat and breathing can only be maintained using a ventilator
- there must be clear evidence that serious brain damage has occurred and it cannot be cured.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostAnd in this case, the person was brain dead for 17 hours before life support was turned off.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post
So, how long do you suggest waiting for the possibility of the person coming back to life after the life support has been switched off?
In reality, switching off life support (in particular, ventilator support) is a key part of the test as to whether a person is brain dead.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Rogue seems to think that you can tell if a person is brain dead before switching off life support.
In reality, switching off life support (in particular, ventilator support) is a key part of the test as to whether a person is brain dead.
Except rogue refers to the “Lazarus syndrome” whereby, in one instance, a woman allegedly revived and recovered 10 minutes after being taken off life support - despite being declared dead for “17 hours after her brain activity completely ceased”. Hence my query as to how long one should wait just in case the “Lazarus syndrome” manifests itself. It would be a tad scary for it to occur during the funeral.
“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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