I have often heard atheists decry certain behaviors. That things like sexual harassment, gay bashing, racism, greed, sexism, etc, etc...are immoral or wrong or even evil. Now sure we could have cultural beliefs about these things, but cultural mores do not define these things. We can objectively look at such behaviors, and if naturalism is true then these are merely natural behaviors. Just as much a part of nature as when one troop of Chimpanzees kills the males from another troop, or when a cheetah kills and eats a gazelle. We wouldn't call those behavior evil or wrong - why label such natural human behaviors as immoral or wrong?
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3sTags: None
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Originally posted by Ronson View PostIMO, it's just contemporary societal sensibilities. They change every few decades.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostTrue, but as rational beings we can see that is the case and rise above those sensibilities and realize that our moral objections are really objections about how nature works. Why do atheists object so strongly to nature?
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Why should atheists hold that all human behaviors are equally desirable?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Machinist View Post
Knee jerk reactions?Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
You can believe what you want, I just want to know, logically, why one finds some natural behaviors so objectionable - why are they so often at odds with nature?
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Originally posted by seer View Post
You can believe what you want, I just want to know, logically, why one finds some natural behaviors so objectionable - why are they so often at odds with nature?"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Right, that is why I said we should step back and look at this objectively. When we do, what is the rational objection.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
It's not a matter of logic. There is no (purely) logical reason for me to avoid death. I just seem to have evolved to have a preference for living. I strongly suspect it's because my ancestors had such a preference, and passed it on to me.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
He actually posed a question that you completely ignored [alleging he believed it] and instead got on one your favourite hobbyhorses.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Machinist View Post
Deeply engrained and culturally programmed knee jerk reactions. Like Stoic said above, there really isn't any logic to it. We're all just going along with some evolved hard wiring that causes us to react to things that we perceive bring harm . And I think that is a very intellectually honest position for any atheist to have.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
This coming from a woman who avoids questions regularly. So why don't you answer my points. Which you avoided in the other thread i.e. why do you find so much of natural human behavior horrifying?"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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