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    What are the problems, scientifically and historically speaking, with the events in Joshua 10?

  • #2
    Originally posted by Seeker View Post
    What are the problems, scientifically and historically speaking, with the events in Joshua 10?
    Ignoring that the language has the Sun moving around the earth, having the earth stop its rotation in order to keep the sun from setting is at the very least problematic.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
      Ignoring that the language has the Sun moving around the earth, having the earth stop its rotation in order to keep the sun from setting is at the very least problematic.
      One would expect that other peoples would have noticed such an event in any case - no matter where they were in the world - but no record of such an event appears in writings from other lands (China, for example) that I am aware of.
      1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω
      "It's bigger inside" might work for a TARDIS - it doesn't work for a bronze sea.

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      • #4
        Localized time dilation.

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        • #5
          Yeah, it's not necessary to the miracle for the entire planet to be stopped. Too mqny secondary miracles and why mess with every other creature's circadian rhythm. And it couldn't be a instant stop.
          If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Seeker View Post
            What are the problems, scientifically and historically speaking, with the events in Joshua 10?
            Concerning 10.12-14 and the sun standing still, it is a legend. The event never actually took place.
            "It ain't necessarily so
            The things that you're liable
            To read in the Bible
            It ain't necessarily so
            ."

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            • #7
              Interesting. What are some of the popular apologetic arguments for this? Surely there are apologists out there who have explained why this is not a problem for biblical inerrancy. I like the localized time dilation. I mean that really sounds like it came from an apologist.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                Localized time dilation.
                The possibility cannot be dismissed.
                1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω
                "It's bigger inside" might work for a TARDIS - it doesn't work for a bronze sea.

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                • #9
                  Meanwhile, some humor....

                  Judge called for the next case.
                  Bailiff reads docket - "Joshua William Davis, illegal production and distribution of alcohol".

                  The Judge thought he'd have a little fun, so he asked the defendant "are you the Joshua who made the sun stand still?"

                  Defendant answers, "no, your honor, I'm the Joshua who made the moonshine still".

                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                    Yeah, it's not necessary to the miracle for the entire planet to be stopped. Too mqny secondary miracles and why mess with every other creature's circadian rhythm. And it couldn't be a instant stop.
                    No need for an instant stop, nor a stop of any kind.
                    1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω
                    "It's bigger inside" might work for a TARDIS - it doesn't work for a bronze sea.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Machinist View Post
                      Interesting. What are some of the popular apologetic arguments for this? Surely there are apologists out there who have explained why this is not a problem for biblical inerrancy. I like the localized time dilation. I mean that really sounds like it came from an apologist.
                      I watch a lot of Star Trek.

                      But God can do anything he wants. He created the universe. If he wanted to create a time bubble and speed up time inside it for Joshua, he could.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post

                        Concerning 10.12-14 and the sun standing still, it is a legend. The event never actually took place.
                        And there we have it: a very high probability that it did indeed happen
                        1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω
                        "It's bigger inside" might work for a TARDIS - it doesn't work for a bronze sea.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sparko View Post

                          I watch a lot of Star Trek.

                          But God can do anything he wants. He created the universe. If he wanted to create a time bubble and speed up time inside it for Joshua, he could.
                          Sure. A small warp in the space time fabric. It would be interesting to look this up. I'll bet Chuck Missler has some interesting perspectives.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by tabibito View Post

                            And there we have it: a very high probability that it did indeed happen


                            Concerning 10.12-14 and the sun standing still, it is a legend. The event never actually took place.-HA

                            And there we have it: a very high probability that it did indeed happen-Tab

                            Please explain this dialogue.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Machinist View Post



                              Concerning 10.12-14 and the sun standing still, it is a legend. The event never actually took place.-HA

                              And there we have it: a very high probability that it did indeed happen-Tab

                              Please explain this dialogue.
                              It is a reference to the level of accuracy that can be expected of H_A's exposition of matters Biblical.
                              1Cor 15:34 εκνηψατε δικαιως και μη αμαρτανετε αγνωσιαν γαρ θεου τινες εχουσιν προς εντροπην υμιν λεγω
                              "It's bigger inside" might work for a TARDIS - it doesn't work for a bronze sea.

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