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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Of course she learned something new, the experience of the color red, seeing/knowing the color red in reality, is new knowledge for her.
The OP was about an apparent dualism of brain and mind...yet we have knowledge about things. This is very fascinating.
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Originally posted by Machinist View Post
"What is knowledge" and "how do we know things", I understand is at the heart of the branch of philosophy called epistemology. And I know there are just as many schools of thought under this heading as there are other branches. My question at this point is: is it considered knowledge if it is a subjective experience? (that is, if it's first person.) Does it not have to be transferable from one mind to another for it to be knowledge?
The OP was about an apparent dualism of brain and mind...yet we have knowledge about things. This is very fascinating.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Isn't everything we/you know based on first person subjective experience?
I'm kinda lost here again. The OP was that there is an apparent dualism between the material brain and consciousness. I'm just trying to follow along. Just sitting here thinking and having coffee. Caffeine molecules.
I've got to go mow grass now.
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Originally posted by Sparko View Post
We should experiment on Cow Poke. He is color blind. You could try to explain what a color he can't see is like, then have him go try on those chromatic glasses and then tell us if he learned anything.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Unfortunately, he doesn't already know everything that is known, or could possibly be known, about how the brain works.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
I understand. My point is that the scenario can't actually be tested.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Yes, some philosophers come to that conclusion.
A lot of others don't.Last edited by seer; 08-07-2021, 12:07 PM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
I don't really know.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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