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Atheism, Slavery, And The Moral High Ground...
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Machinist View Post
There is still a disconnect. A leap has been made from the forces of nature to morality. I understand that you are saying they are a byproduct. Even so a leap has still been made and it is a disconnect.
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Originally posted by seer View Post
What are you talking about - everything, including the desire to survive, societies, cooperation, moral ideals, etc...are created and determined by the forces of nature. There is nothing else in your world.
“The desire to survive, and cooperation and moral ideals, etc...” were NOT “created”. That would presuppose a “creator” with a purpose. But there’s no good evidence of such an entity.
Conversely, there IS considerable evidence supporting ‘natural selection’ shaping humans (and other advanced species) into highly social, cooperative species adhering to ‘rules of behavior’ so as to enhance survival“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostAs opposed to “being determined by the forces” of an omniscient, omnipotent deity you mean?
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
At least if we were determined by God we would be determined by a rational being, instead of the blind, non-rational forces of nature.
“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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