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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostIf anyone thinks that atheism/atheists lack(s) a moral compass or that atheism is synonymous with nihilism, they haven't done even the most basic investigation into atheism or really any academic moral philosophy.
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If anyone thinks that atheism/atheists lack(s) a moral compass or that atheism is synonymous with nihilism, they haven't done even the most basic investigation into atheism or really any academic moral philosophy.
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Originally posted by seer View Post
But where does that system come from, what decided that some behaviors are acceptable while others are not to reach Nirvana? These are at bottom moral questions, what or who designed this moral system?
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Originally posted by Machinist View Post
Well yeah. It would be a god of sorts then wouldn't it. Everything, including the entire process and series of cycles of death and rebirth would be their equivalent of God. Why would there be a need to extract and isolate any conception of a monotheistic God in that belief system?
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Well think about it. You go through a series cycles (death and rebirth) to learn particular behaviors and responses. When you gain pure enlightenment you reach Nirvana. Now ask yourself, what designed this system? What decided that some behaviors are acceptable while others are not? If not a mind akin to a god, then what?
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Originally posted by Machinist View Post
Thanks. But why would they build an entire culture and tradition around something that doesn't make sense?
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Originally posted by Stoic View PostWhether the rich guy is doing anything immoral may depend on who you ask.Last edited by Mountain Man; 04-10-2021, 10:45 AM.
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostYou're confusing atheism and materialism again. One can be an atheist while thinking an afterlife is more probable than not - I'm such a person.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
The bad news for atheists is that it goes nowhere. You live until you die, and then oblivion. And don't count on your "legacy" preserving your memory. You'll likely be forgotten about within three generations.
One of the most poignant things about flea market stalls is the boxes of old photographs or the "images of ghosts" if you want to wax poetic. Or take a walk around an old church graveyard, probably something not overly easy to find in the USA.
In such graveyards there will be collapsed headstones where the carving is so worn as to be illegible or where the dedications can still be faintly read to the beloved wife of, the loving husband to, or the child called before their time.
Who were they? Nobody knows and no one any longer cares.Last edited by Hypatia_Alexandria; 04-10-2021, 05:30 AM.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
Yes. For instance, giving most of your earnings to charity and living in borderline poverty is less pleasant than hording your wealth and living in luxury.
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostThe bad news for atheists is that it goes nowhere. You live until you die, and then oblivion.
Originally posted by Machinist View PostI am an Atheist...
...and I recognize that I have no moral obligation in the least to follow any laws.
I speak for myself here. I have no moral compass now. There are no Absolutes. Everything is relative. We're all just dust in the wind.
What shall I do today? What shall I do?
I'd like to go to the beach for a month or two, but something is telling me that it's best I go to work instead.
Since nothing really matters anymore, does anyone have pointers on how to navigate here on earth without a moral compass?
Thank you.
I live in a country that has as many, if not more, atheists than religious people. In general, with regard to their behavior and character etc, I observe no difference whatsoever between the two groups. When I make a new friend, it can take a few years for me to learn whether they are religious, and that only happens if they explicitly tell me what their religious views are (religion here is considered quite a private matter, so it's generally regarded as fairly rude to either ask someone about their religious views or start talking about your own)... there is never anything in their behavior or character that would clue me on whether they are religious or not.
So the obvious answer to me with regard to how you should act as an atheist is: Same as you acted as a Christian.
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