The Human Animal...

[Starlight]

Here are few I found quickly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6WnliSKrR4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0j444u10ng

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrdktsDljxM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHhmuqBW6Dw

I wasn't claiming a Christian apologist never debates atheists!

I was pointing out he never dives into the details of any atheist moral theories and discusses them specifically. Interaction with any (and ideally all) specific actual labelled atheistic moral theories is what I am after. He seems to prefer to stay at the 10,000 foot level and just talk about the idea of atheist moral views rather than any specific ones. As a result he seems to feel free to make false claims about them not having any, claims that would be obviously false to his audience if he were dealing with any specific moral theories.

[seer]

I wasn't claiming a Christian apologist never debates atheists!

I was pointing out he never dives into the details of any atheist moral theories and discusses them specifically. Interaction with any (and ideally all) specific actual labelled atheistic moral theories is what I am after. He seems to prefer to stay at the 10,000 foot level and just talk about the idea of atheist moral views rather than any specific ones. As a result he seems to feel free to make false claims about them not having any, claims that would be obviously false to his audience if he were dealing with any specific moral theories.

The atheists he is debating have their theories, sheesh...

Go back to the debate I linked with Erik Wielenberg who is a moral realist..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iVyVJAMiOY

And here are some short answers from his mail bag...

448 Consequentialism and the Problem of Evil

https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writ...oblem-of-evil/

379 Anti-Platonism and Moral Realism

https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writ...moral-realism/

437 Nominalism and Natural Law

https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writ...d-natural-law/

#589 Moral Knowledge and God’s Existence

https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writ...ods-existence/

[Tassman]

Bingo. If atheism is true, then nobody is morally obligated to do anything. It's all just a matter of personal preference, and if someone chooses to flout the preferences of society then he has not actually done anything immoral.

Morality is basically a question of socially acceptable behavior as adjudged by the community in which we are based and which is necessary to our survival as a social species. It’s – it’s NOT just “personal preference”.

As for our moral obligation to God, it's not merely because he is able to hold us accountable but because of who and what he is.

In short, the very same reasons we are accountable to the community in which we reside and accept its authority regarding community values and law enforcement.

[Tassman]

While some men did use a distortion of scripture to justify certain practices, many others have interpreted the Bible correctly and fought to abolish such things.

Who decides what constituted the “distortion of scripture” which resulted in 400 years of slavery, colonial invasions and land-grabs, the destruction of indigenous cultures, the limited role of women in society etc. etc. etc.? Were the Christians of that period willfully disobeying scripture - and how do you know you’ve got it right now – especially given that Christians had it wrong for so long?

[rogue06]

I find it curious that human beings seem to be the only creatures that are at war with their natural inclinations. We are constantly trying to control our appetites and impulses. I suspect that the higher primates are perfectly at home with their instincts and cravings, unitary and uniform. Humans on the other hand seem to be bifurcated. Trying to dominate and control these very natural passions and stimuli... In a real sense - a state of war exists between the rational and the animal nature.

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