Can someone be a Christian and simultaneously accept the plausibility of atheism? I have an affinity for atheism, but also an affinity for the Death Burial and Resurrection of Jesus Christ, God Incarnate.
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No. Christianity and atheism are opposites. I have a no problems with someone looking at the matter and making a decision. Ultimately, you do have to make a choice."For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings." Hosea 6:6
"Theology can be an intellectual entertainment." Metropolitan Anthony Bloom
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Originally posted by Machinist View PostCan someone be a Christian and simultaneously accept the plausibility of atheism? I have an affinity for atheism, but also an affinity for the Death Burial and Resurrection of Jesus Christ, God Incarnate.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Machinist View PostCan someone be a Christian and simultaneously accept the plausibility of atheism?
I have an affinity for atheism, but also an affinity for the Death Burial and Resurrection of Jesus Christ, God Incarnate.
P1) If , then I win.
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C) I win.
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Originally posted by Machinist View PostCan someone be a Christian and simultaneously accept the plausibility of atheism? I have an affinity for atheism, but also an affinity for the Death Burial and Resurrection of Jesus Christ, God Incarnate.
Having some doubt is just human, you have to choose what you want to believe despite any doubt.
Mark 9:24
Immediately the boy’s father exclaimed, “I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief!”
Last edited by Sparko; 03-12-2021, 12:17 PM.
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
If you mean can someone accept X position as true and simultaneously accept that ~X has good arguments without being doxastically compelling , probably.
I don't understand what you mean by "affinity" as I don't understand how you have affinity for both.
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Originally posted by Machinist View Post
It's not just some, but rather I would say closer to 50/50.It's looks perfectly ambiguous.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Machinist View Post
Yeah I do. As far as I can tell I do.
What it's trying to suggest is to 'step into the light' - begin living like a Christian should - get into a Bible believing / Bible preaching church, and ask the Lord to guide you by His Holy Spirit.
It's like "taking a step of faith" toward the Lord.
As you open yourself up to the Lord, I believe He will be faithful in drawing you in.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
I used to hear a crude way of expressing -- "fake it until you make it". The idea behind it is good, but the expression is .. um... I don't like it.
What it's trying to suggest is to 'step into the light' - begin living like a Christian should - get into a Bible believing / Bible preaching church, and ask the Lord to guide you by His Holy Spirit.
It's like "taking a step of faith" toward the Lord.
As you open yourself up to the Lord, I believe He will be faithful in drawing you in.
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I mean I go to Church but haven't felt like it was the right place to get into. They're some hard core Calvinists and very theological about it. And they're really hyper conservative. I like the people. Really nice. I don't think I vibe with them though.
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Originally posted by Machinist View Post
I think that's what i'm doing. Although I haven't really delved into any church group yet. As soon as the restrictions are lifted I was going to try the Episcopalean Church.
At least, read up on how liberal they have become.
Why is the Episcopal Church near collapse?
Prominent bishops are pulling out. Convention-goers were told headquarters had spent $18 million suing local congregations. Members are leaving at a record rate. This is no longer George Washington’s church – once the largest denomination in the colonies.
The headlines coming out of the Episcopal Church’s annual U.S. convention are stunning — endorsement of cross-dressing clergy, blessing same-sex marriage, the sale of their headquarters since they can’t afford to maintain it.
The American branch of the Church of England, founded when the Vatican balked at permitting King Henry VIII to continue annulling marriages to any wife who failed to bear him sons, is in trouble.
Somehow slipping out of the headlines is a harsh reality that the denomination has been deserted in droves by an angry or ambivalent membership. Six prominent bishops are ready to take their large dioceses out of the American church and align with conservative Anglican groups in Africa and South America.
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
If I might gently suggest a Bible Church or a Baptist Church or.... Episcopalians are good people, I'm sure, but I don't believe you're going to find solid Bible teaching there.
At least, read up on how liberal they have become.
Why is the Episcopal Church near collapse?
Prominent bishops are pulling out. Convention-goers were told headquarters had spent $18 million suing local congregations. Members are leaving at a record rate. This is no longer George Washington’s church – once the largest denomination in the colonies.
The headlines coming out of the Episcopal Church’s annual U.S. convention are stunning — endorsement of cross-dressing clergy, blessing same-sex marriage, the sale of their headquarters since they can’t afford to maintain it.
The American branch of the Church of England, founded when the Vatican balked at permitting King Henry VIII to continue annulling marriages to any wife who failed to bear him sons, is in trouble.
Somehow slipping out of the headlines is a harsh reality that the denomination has been deserted in droves by an angry or ambivalent membership. Six prominent bishops are ready to take their large dioceses out of the American church and align with conservative Anglican groups in Africa and South America.
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