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  • #31
    Originally posted by JimL View Post
    So the Trinity is an explanation of god's relationship with himself?
    No. God the Father, the Son of God and the Holy Spirit are three distinct Persons. Who are the one Self Existent God.
    . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
      That is an assertion that is hard to backup when the Trinity refers to three distinct individual Divine persons described as Gods.
      . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

      . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

      Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by 37818 View Post
        Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
        Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
        But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

        go with the flow the river knows . . .

        Frank

        I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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        • #34
          Christianity teaches that Trinity is the belief that God is one manifested in three persons; the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit and each Person is fully God.

          However, Jesus refuted over and over trinity in the Bible. For example, Jesus said in Matthew 24:36 that "no one knows that day and hour nor the Son not even the angels in heaven BUT ONLY THE FATHER". Only means only; therefore, Jesus proved that the Holy Spirit does not know that hour or that day.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Same Hakeem View Post
            Christianity teaches that Trinity is the belief that God is one manifested in three persons; the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit and each Person is fully God.

            However, Jesus refuted over and over trinity in the Bible. For example, Jesus said in Matthew 24:36 that "no one knows that day and hour nor the Son not even the angels in heaven BUT ONLY THE FATHER". Only means only; therefore, Jesus proved that the Holy Spirit does not know that hour or that day.
            Because you do not understand.

            For example, The Word was always both God and with God and the sole agent from God to cause creation. John 1:1-3.
            . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

            . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

            Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by 37818 View Post
              Because you do not understand.

              For example, The Word was always both God and with God and the sole agent from God to cause creation. John 1:1-3.
              It's still illogical to say that god was always both god and with god and the sole agent from god to cause creation. I mean it isn't that we don't know what you are saying, it's just that what you are saying is illogical.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by 37818 View Post
                No. God the Father, the Son of God and the Holy Spirit are three distinct Persons. Who are the one Self Existent God.
                . . . which are three Gods in one, the same as the Gods of Hinduism as many Gods in one Brahman, and classic polytheism. Multiple Gods are multiple Gods regardless of how you do the math.

                God the Son remains a separate God seated at the right hand of God the Father in heaven. Arathe anthropomorphic description of polytheism.
                Last edited by shunyadragon; 01-10-2020, 08:32 PM.
                Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                go with the flow the river knows . . .

                Frank

                I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                  . . . which are three Gods in one, the same as the Gods of Hinduism as many Gods in one Brahman, and classic polytheism. Multiple Gods are multiple Gods regardless of how you do the math.

                  God the Son remains a separate God seated at the right hand of God the Father in heaven. Arathe anthropomorphic description of polytheism.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                    . . . which are three Gods in one, the same as the Gods of Hinduism as many Gods in one Brahman, and classic polytheism. Multiple Gods are multiple Gods regardless of how you do the math.

                    God the Son remains a separate God seated at the right hand of God the Father in heaven. Arathe anthropomorphic description of polytheism.
                    Silly you. There is only one God, John 17:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6, ". . . But to us there is but one God, the Father, . . ." 1 Timothy 2:5, "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; . . ."
                    . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

                    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

                    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
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                      Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                      Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                      But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                      go with the flow the river knows . . .

                      Frank

                      I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by 37818 View Post
                        Silly you. There is only one God, John 17:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6, ". . . But to us there is but one God, the Father, . . ." 1 Timothy 2:5, "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; . . ."
                        Biblically "God the Son remains a separate God seated at the right hand of God the Father in heaven. Arathe anthropomorphic description of polytheism."

                        " . . . three separate distinct persons."
                        Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                        Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                        But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                        go with the flow the river knows . . .

                        Frank

                        I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by JimL View Post
                          It's still illogical to say that god was always both god and with god and the sole agent from god to cause creation. I mean it isn't that we don't know what you are saying, it's just that what you are saying is illogical.
                          So you think John 1:1-2 is illogical, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. . . ."

                          What you do not understand is that you can know God. But it is not just you. "There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God." -- Romans 3:11. ". . . That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: . . ." to the Ephesians 2:12.
                          . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

                          . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

                          Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by 37818 View Post
                            Silly you. There is only one God, John 17:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6, ". . . But to us there is but one God, the Father, . . ." 1 Timothy 2:5, "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; . . ."
                            Again, this is an illogical definition of the trinity. If there is only one god, the father and one mediator between men and god, then Christ Jesus would not be god, he'd be a mediator, like 1 Timothy 2:5 says, between god and men.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by 37818 View Post
                              So you think John 1:1-2 is illogical, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. . . ."

                              What you do not understand is that you can know God. But it is not just you. "There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God." -- Romans 3:11. ". . . That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: . . ." to the Ephesians 2:12.
                              "The word" is a synonymous term for Jesus/god, correct? So what you're saying is that in the beginning was god, and god was with god, and that god was god. That makes no sense no matter how you slice it. Now if you wanted to argue that "the word" was simply an attribute of god such as wisdom, then it might make a little more sense, but then you'd lose your trinity of persons and the idea that the earthly Jesus was god.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by 37818 View Post
                                Silly you. There is only one God, John 17:3, 1 Corinthians 8:6, ". . . But to us there is but one God, the Father, . . ." 1 Timothy 2:5, "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; . . ."
                                Please be more exact. There is only one true God that is the Father according to Jesus in John 17:1-3.

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