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This forum is open discussion between atheists and all theists to defend and debate their views on religion or non-religion. Please respect that this is a Christian-owned forum and refrain from gratuitous blasphemy. VERY wide leeway is given in range of expression and allowable behavior as compared to other areas of the forum, and moderation is not overly involved unless necessary. Please keep this in mind. Atheists who wish to interact with theists in a way that does not seek to undermine theistic faith may participate in the World Religions Department. Non-debate question and answers and mild and less confrontational discussions can take place in General Theistics.
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Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Machinist View Post
It wouldn't be our invention. It would just be the way things evolved.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View PostFurthermore, the various concepts of deity that we find in the Hebrew texts do not bear out the contention that god is completely good.
Except you can not define good in any universal or objective sense. So your claim is without meaning...
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostSo we could then evolve to be more cruel or selfish....
Perhaps we could lionize people who are kind and unselfish, for example, and shun or imprison people who are cruel and selfish.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
To avoid that, we'd need to set up our societies such that cruelty and selfishness are disadvantageous to longevity and reproduction.
Perhaps we could lionize people who are kind and unselfish, for example, and shun or imprison people who are cruel and selfish.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Not just genetics. There is also environment.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Machinist View Post
Short answer, no.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Except you can not define good in any universal or objective sense. So your claim is without meaning...
That is Gregory of Nyssa.
Not me."It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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Originally posted by Hypatia_Alexandria View Post
"God is in His own nature all that which our mind can conceive of as good; ‐ rather, transcending all good that we can conceive or comprehend."
That is Gregory of Nyssa.
Not me.
Gregory of Nyssa goes on to say
He creates man for no other reason than that He is good (emphasis added); and being such, and having this as His reason for entering upon the creation of our nature, He would not exhibit the power of His goodness in an imperfect form, giving our nature some one of the things at His disposal, and grudging it a share in another: but the perfect form of goodness is here to be seen by His both bringing man into being from nothing, and fully supplying him with all good gifts: but since the list of individual good gifts is a long one, it is out of the question to apprehend it numerically.P1) If , then I win.
P2)
C) I win.
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Originally posted by Diogenes View Post
God transcending our concepts of "good" does not entail God is not completely good as you claimed.
I wrote "the various concepts of deity that we find in the Hebrew texts do not bear out the contention that god is completely good." I underlined the word "god" because there are various concepts of deity found in the Hebrew texts.
"It ain't necessarily so
The things that you're liable
To read in the Bible
It ain't necessarily so."
Sportin' Life
Porgy & Bess, DuBose Heyward, George & Ira Gershwin
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