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This forum is open discussion between atheists and all theists to defend and debate their views on religion or non-religion. Please respect that this is a Christian-owned forum and refrain from gratuitous blasphemy. VERY wide leeway is given in range of expression and allowable behavior as compared to other areas of the forum, and moderation is not overly involved unless necessary. Please keep this in mind. Atheists who wish to interact with theists in a way that does not seek to undermine theistic faith may participate in the World Religions Department. Non-debate question and answers and mild and less confrontational discussions can take place in General Theistics.
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Not as used in the phrase "settled science".
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
So the theory of evolution is not absolutely true?“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Stoic View PostYeah, the probability is only "approaching" 100%.
...so only believes in things when the probability is approaching 0%, like God and Christianity."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View Post...so only believes in things when the probability is approaching 0%, like God and Christianity.
That's not high enough for Seer to believe it, because he's super-skeptical and carefully nuanced in his beliefs...Last edited by seer; 03-05-2021, 07:20 AM.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Yeah, the probability is only "approaching" 100%.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post
Evolution by natural selection is one of the best substantiated theories in the history of science. I was referring to deductive arguments in ‘formal logic’ which are purely academic. Unlike science it has no mechanism for verifying its premises.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Stoic View Post
Semantics are important. Otherwise, people will tend to conflate "approximately 100%" with "exactly 100%".Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
Well how do you confirm anything scientifically if the laws of logic are not absolute? If the LONC is not absolute then in principle the theory of evolution could be both true and false.
Conversely, the laws of logic are based upon axioms, i.e., maxims or rules that are universally agreed upon but which do not exist in their own right.
“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post
Unlike Logic, scientific theories are verified and substantiated via scientific methodology. A problem is identified, relevant data is gathered, a hypothesis is formulated from this data, and the hypothesis is then empirically tested and verified or falsified.
Conversely, the laws of logic are based upon axioms, i.e., maxims or rules that are universally agreed upon but which do not exist in their own right.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View Post
How can anything be verified or substantiated if the LONC is not absolute? Water boils at around 212 degrees, water does not boil at around 212 degrees. If the laws of logic are not universal then in theory true contradictions can exist - all science fails, as does all reason.
“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View Post
The boiling-point of water can be empirically tested and verified regardless of the personal opinions about it. Conversely, the Laws of Logic are only absolute for as long as the maxims upon which they are based are universally agreed upon.P1) If , then I win.
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C) I win.
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